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<925275B1-CE14-4A67-B82A-9F5114FB81FB@couchbase.com> To: Andreas Wenk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_5DE2F41F-C808-4411-BC9F-E9EACB8196D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Andy, Thats a great idea, look forward to the guidelines because I could use = the help. Cheers Garren On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:26 AM, Andy Wenk wrote: > Garren, >=20 > On 24 January 2014 08:45, Garren Smith wrote: > It is good to have these discussions, my only concern is that we scare = off people that are worried about sending a message to the mailing lists = and getting it wrong. There was an email earlier today where that = happened to some degree. I'm all for some helpful guidelines but we = don't want to end up coming across as those people that complain about = what way a message is sent. >=20 > scaring people is a no-no-go. That was definitely not the intention of = the discussion. So, I would like to write a summary to all lists with = some easy to understand and helpful guidelines. I think they should be = really liberal-minded. Unfortunately I will not make that happen today = but can make it tomorrow. If anyone else wants to take this part just go = ahead ... >=20 > Thanks a lot for pointing this out! >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Andy > =20 > On 23 Jan 2014, at 9:27 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: >=20 > > > > On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Benoit Chesneau = wrote: > > > >> Just following http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 is good. > > > > Etiquette changes over time, and this RFC is nearly 20 years old. = Complaining about top-posting is very "Get off my lawn, kids!" > > > > I try to inline-post, except if I'm composing on a phone. But I = don't much mind what style people use, as long as they don't quote the = entire message and then add a line somewhere in the middle of it. > > > >> Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the > >> postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a > >> response to a message before seeing the original. Giving = context > >> helps everyone. > > > > Technology changes too. I remember the days of UUCP-based Netnews, = but it hasn't been that way in ages. Out-of-order receipt is no longer = an issue, and nearly all mail clients show threads, so it's not hard to = see the context of a reply. > > > >> But do not include the entire original! > > > > I can't help noticing you included Andy's entire original, Benoit :) > > > > =97Jens >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Andy Wenk > Hamburg - Germany > RockIt! >=20 > http://www.couchdb-buch.de > http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de >=20 > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >=20 > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc --Apple-Mail=_5DE2F41F-C808-4411-BC9F-E9EACB8196D4--