Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C71510B63 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 22:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54607 invoked by uid 500); 30 Nov 2013 22:57:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 54495 invoked by uid 500); 30 Nov 2013 22:57:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 54487 invoked by uid 99); 30 Nov 2013 22:57:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 22:57:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [209.85.215.177] (HELO mail-ea0-f177.google.com) (209.85.215.177) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 22:57:30 +0000 Received: by mail-ea0-f177.google.com with SMTP id n15so7681228ead.8 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 14:57:08 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id; bh=EE9OoUmQlr6IrpSDMIsdWBSyqC9O4gRPHKbuD36w4iQ=; b=k6+nvBUmDm43dWVXzDf2xxUJ7RqiuHlBTcPBTue89GwPLzzwnPFkzbTA3V0Hd0Js6S MXNDnTpm6hbkRQUabl4b9leawi3RH3t98kpY6gwia8tVwGqoODVcKq3GCrObOoR//J1X z2JB83vcvDIuxxv0HPU4To6fTLhFSSjhq8Dv0+dAUi0LrC7hupRxZjKlauQmykcjdlVM kLjVuGtf/nLgYWJJhjT9avguIgolIATqhJBOenWMK6ihYR3Hm+8/LmoVdpAByFnvKLt+ KSabXb9AtPUlRE7EGTueDrG1j2g6hbyvAE+0A980r3iZYW7dC74b8Z0xbN1iFtzEQ2AI DU6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYMIyHsqBKAJT/3QYpk/nsjkdAXTIdtCLpNuWYFQVoYF4taM0bq6EEB0ktHPmsK7c9ilZZ X-Received: by 10.15.23.206 with SMTP id h54mr58953943eeu.17.1385852228002; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 14:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.112] ([77.72.35.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g1sm55061248eew.1.2013.11.30.14.57.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Nov 2013 14:57:07 -0800 (PST) From: Filippo Fadda Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_56DBFA8C-E6D7-48EF-B042-C587A8E1FC3D" Subject: Re: [discuss] couchapp.org down, couchapp.org spammed Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 23:57:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: dev@couchdb.apache.org References: <529A19BF.1060209@lymegreen.co.uk> <2B31B8CB-2E3E-4AAD-A4C8-93C614A109F5@programmazione.it> <6364DA60-4B97-41CA-ACB0-29F3D7BAC4D5@programmazione.it> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_56DBFA8C-E6D7-48EF-B042-C587A8E1FC3D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List and show are not stored procedure. We already discussed that = Benoit. http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Formatting_with_Show_and_List =46rom the documentation: "Show and list functions are side effect free = and idempotent. They can not make additional HTTP requests against = CouchDB. Their purpose is to render JSON documents in other formats." Apples are not pears. I'm not buying it, stop selling list and show like = stored proc. A stored procedure, in general, is not side effect free or = idempotent. > If you just want a database then any KV is enough for your purpose. If = now > you want a DBMS which at least I want, then you probably want a way to > store procedures and such to adapt the query language to your needs. = Guess, > what is the purpose of lists and shows? Not in the way they are. To me, actually list and show are useless. I'm = sorry, this is what I think. Can we just move on? -Filippo= --Apple-Mail=_56DBFA8C-E6D7-48EF-B042-C587A8E1FC3D--