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Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:25:07 +0100
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence
From: Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org>, ":odamiean"@linux.com
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Two separate initiatives.

Alexander has been moving some wiki content to RST. Stuff that needs to go
in our manual.

This thread is about moving the rest to Confluence.

Help with either is appreciated!


On 12 August 2013 19:13, <odamiean@linux.com> wrote:

>
> I'm volunteering as well.
>
> As far as I understood it is about converting the "good" parts of the
> wiki to RST, right?
>
>
>
>
> Octavian Damiean
>
> Launchpad: [https://launchpad.net/~mainerror:
> <https://launchpad.net/~mainerror>]
> Stack Overflow: [http://stackoverflow.com/u/418183:
> <http://stackoverflow.com/users/418183>]
>
>
>
> Okay, follow up:
>
> 1) Confluence has a CAPTCHA system, so we can drop the "you have to be
> manually added to a list of approved contributors" rule. (If we get
> spam,
> despite having a CAPTCHA, we can add the same sort of rule. But at
> least we
> get to try it and see.)
>
> 2) Still looking at conversions tools. At this point, I think I'm
> happy to
> volunteer to do it by hand. It's gonna be hard to automate this stuff
> anyway. Our wiki is quite small, and we should be loosing about 60% of
> it
> anyway, with Alexander's work on the docs.
>
>
>     On 12 August 2013 18:43, Octavian Damiean <odamiean@linux.com>
>     wrote:
>
>     > That's a +1 Form me too.
>     > On Aug 12, 2013 2:33 AM, "Noah Slater" <nslater@apache.org>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     > > I tested CloudStack's Confluence wiki[1], and it seems
>     perfectly fine to
>     > > me.
>     > >
>     > > I am posting a quick note to Infra to ask them if MoinMoin is
>     likely to
>     > > fixed any time soon. It's been like this for ages.
>     > >
>     > > [1]
>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Home
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > On 12 August 2013 01:31, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org>
>     wrote:
>     > >
>     > > > I've no love for the current wiki stack, will Confluence be
>     faster? +1
>     > if
>     > > > so.
>     > > >
>     > > >
>     > > > On 12 August 2013 01:24, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>     wrote:
>     > > > > Hi folks,
>     > > > >
>     > > > > We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>     > > > >
>     > > > > However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on
>     the wiki for
>     > > now:
>     > > > >
>     > > > >  * Weekly news (not started yet)
>     > > > >  * Merge procedure
>     > > > >  * Release procedure
>     > > > >  * Release preparation
>     > > > >  * Test procedure
>     > > > >  * Committer election process
>     > > > >  * PMC election process
>     > > > >  * Community guide
>     > > > >  * Roadmap process
>     > > > >  * Board reports
>     > > > >  * Board report guide
>     > > > >  * Code of conduct
>     > > > >  * PMC charter
>     > > > >  * By-laws
>     > > > >  * Marketing guide
>     > > > >  * CouchDB vision stuff
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested
>     in working
>     > > on.
>     > > > > Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on
>     the
>     > > homepage,
>     > > > > doesn't belong in the manual.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I
>     gotta tell
>     > > you:
>     > > > > it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a
>     change
>     > about
>     > > > 20
>     > > > > seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing
>     this email,
>     > > and
>     > > > > the page is still loading.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the
>     wiki recently,
>     > > but
>     > > > > it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident
>     it's gonna get
>     > > any
>     > > > > better.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to
>     Confluence. I'm not
>     > > sure
>     > > > > how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna
>     help out?
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is
>     in Moin,
>     > > that
>     > > > we
>     > > > > don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e.
>     We just
>     > > > wouldn't
>     > > > > move it over.)
>     > > > >
>     > > > > If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont
>     mind the
>     > > > proposed
>     > > > > move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly
>     regularly, it is
>     > > > causing
>     > > > > me a lot of problems.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my
>     plate. Perhaps
>     > > > someone
>     > > > > else would be interested in moving the content over?
>     Eugh.)
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Thanks,
>     > > > >
>     > > > > --
>     > > > > Noah Slater
>     > > > > https://twitter.com/nslater
>     > > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > --
>     > > Noah Slater
>     > > https://twitter.com/nslater
>     > >
>     >
>
>
>
>     --
>     Noah Slater
>     https://twitter.com/nslater
>
>


-- 
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater

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