Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 653C610380 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 36432 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 06:11:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 35856 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 06:11:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 35747 invoked by uid 99); 12 Aug 2013 06:11:08 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:11:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of simon@cloudant.com designates 209.85.215.177 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.177] (HELO mail-ea0-f177.google.com) (209.85.215.177) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:11:01 +0000 Received: by mail-ea0-f177.google.com with SMTP id f15so3167176eak.36 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:10:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=JtLoEdOwBkrU4B2w1jBJfLD9IPOfPWGklCnma3MTRSg=; b=R+SQkVPzmGBLRl5SnV0UZzCFI0Az/BHRlmSYGWDEUiDkQ0Ka46u03JVXKL3o0k7toE JVpdjPRc9xPOjDZy5X/ji3gi9UDbgzwK7sthzfGwf7wY39ESkc/FkkgboBn4l1gVK8AM +11WcBgTY/gw4ygTVStSDN+Q0dIQCPCosz30Mr/9u/pjUzOlByWyE/F492/Xu5FH1Uim U6pz6fNO7MGQ9uTy649jEiYxEfo3L8ipoyxdmrT1GZ93zGmzpZqFwXa6paFF5qZWowe6 i3tP4Jf47jzi5egs3rgUI18/Waeg2mkZPRI28hIaba8KxxgSxAjeQHsg/Jg6ikBQAdOq WEVw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk0a9VuEBqJNRKwjPaM3ea0GL3vJ+ruMub05+vPzOefampq24s72wJf9qGdX+MOsTRYW+r5 X-Received: by 10.14.42.1 with SMTP id i1mr23992291eeb.79.1376287839888; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (host-78-146-120-135.as13285.net. [78.146.120.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f49sm48847365eec.7.2013.08.11.23.10.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 07:10:37 +0100 From: Simon Metson To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Message-ID: <26983D8579CC41DD9B179FC6A3D09943@cloudant.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence X-Mailer: sparrow 1.3.4 (build 507.54) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="52087c5d_2db88089_2eb6" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --52087c5d_2db88089_2eb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've used confluence in the past and quite liked it. Integration with jira would be handy, too, though I don't know the details of it. Didn't this come up a while ago? I have a vague recollection of a small group of folks volunteering to migrate things over... On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 03:14, Noah Slater wrote: > Just received word that they are trying to debug the situation, so it might > get better. > > I am still interested in moving to Confluence, though perhaps it's less > pressing. So if others could weight in, that'd still be cool. > > > > On 12 August 2013 01:35, Robert Newson wrote: > > > +1 to switch. iirc there's deep JIRA integration too, which might be handy. > > > > > > On 12 August 2013 01:33, Noah Slater wrote: > > > I tested CloudStack's Confluence wiki[1], and it seems perfectly fine to > > > > me. > > > > > > I am posting a quick note to Infra to ask them if MoinMoin is likely to > > > fixed any time soon. It's been like this for ages. > > > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Home > > > > > > > > > On 12 August 2013 01:31, Robert Newson wrote: > > > > > > > I've no love for the current wiki stack, will Confluence be faster? +1 > > if > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 August 2013 01:24, Noah Slater wrote: > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > > > We're moving the docs to the source, which is great! > > > > > > > > > > However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki for > > now: > > > > > > > > > > * Weekly news (not started yet) > > > > > * Merge procedure > > > > > * Release procedure > > > > > * Release preparation > > > > > * Test procedure > > > > > * Committer election process > > > > > * PMC election process > > > > > * Community guide > > > > > * Roadmap process > > > > > * Board reports > > > > > * Board report guide > > > > > * Code of conduct > > > > > * PMC charter > > > > > * By-laws > > > > > * Marketing guide > > > > > * CouchDB vision stuff > > > > > > > > > > Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in working > > on. > > > > > Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the > > > > > > > > > > > homepage, > > > > > doesn't belong in the manual. > > > > > > > > > > I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta tell > > you: > > > > > it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > 20 > > > > > seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this email, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > the page is still loading. > > > > > > > > > > I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki recently, > > but > > > > > it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna get > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm not > > sure > > > > > how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out? > > > > > > > > > > Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in Moin, > > that > > > > we > > > > > don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just > > > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > move it over.) > > > > > > > > > > If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the > > > > proposed > > > > > move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is > > > > > > > > causing > > > > > me a lot of problems. > > > > > > > > > > (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps > > > > someone > > > > > else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Noah Slater > > > > > https://twitter.com/nslater > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Noah Slater > > > https://twitter.com/nslater > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Noah Slater > https://twitter.com/nslater > > --52087c5d_2db88089_2eb6--