Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2DB010E21 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 36331 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2013 00:39:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 36202 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2013 00:39:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 36191 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jul 2013 00:39:13 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:39:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of kxepal@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.50] (HELO mail-wg0-f50.google.com) (74.125.82.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:39:07 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id m15so1055996wgh.29 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:38:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U0OLuS7p9Y/L155WyBkBxolDg/k/IjX3xTvr/rdefMI=; b=gHDhYJlZr5LxdFqYK/21wDrWAt3TaIxEcH8laeNMX6Y9oRu6LWeRebNmAA4idGmvNy dxifcJTK64MRe34Qw4KBRZ2jkK3w+yn1osJCK8dIGUETeC497cx4AuCJ697imBM7QesM jnlIaxOY9GP4EQUttYExQK97fvcfiqGVzdQ3YoOxhnD9DM1KiswYwFBWThXfzWT+e6he wnbQ4edFUgkg5xDywwlt72BOfueb9R1cSv8DvtH7hcc85Cyl9KQNAhWV2YWObq1gdIAS 7wvUx8wE/CzSw6Est2ddNhJ/xiKQzFv6oEgWWR+lShB9uWk9xt6Boc6IA3lIqCvM9yo6 UPxA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.158.102 with SMTP id wt6mr28691880wjb.27.1374712727080; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.10 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:38:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3923359E-7F63-4DDE-9CDE-BFF070FA4CCD@programmazione.it> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 04:38:47 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [REVIEW] Docs update From: Alexander Shorin To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Filippo Fadda wrote: > On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Alexander Shorin wrote: >> That's why installation guides (from sources, using system package >> manager etc.) have to be in docs. > > I'm not telling they shouldn't be there, I'm telling, in the doc, you wan= t find all: > > - Mac OS X > Download the image (with the link to download) > Install using MacPorts > Install using Brew > > - Linux > Install using apt-get (Ubuntu, Debian) > Install using yum (CentOS, RedHat, Fedora) > Gentoo (someone still use Gentoo? Maybe the same one is using Rub= y) :-) > etc. > > - Windows > Download the installation package > > - You are a geek? Install from source! (here you can talk about dependenc= ies and all that stuff) > > I know how to install it, that's not the point. I'm making the devil's ad= vocate. If I'm a Mac OS X user, there is no way to know that I can install = it from MacPorts unless reading the wiki. Maybe I just read the documentati= on, and I can't find, in the doc, there is an image to install it. I want r= ead the manual, I want navigate to the Install section, choose Mac OS X, an= d learn all the ways to install it. > The manual should teach you all, but it doesn't. I read it and I say: oh = fuck, all those steps to install CouchDB on a *nix system? Fair point, I got it. Thanks! >> You got the point, but from the opposite side (: Content is moving >> from wiki to docs in wiki is been deprecated in favour of docs. > > And this is good. But when the doc is updated with the wiki content, ther= e is no reason to keep the same information there. To keep there - you mean wiki? At this you're also right: once docs be merged with master, wiki content have to redirect to docs for some time before fade away. > Just to be clear, I have nothing against you, I'm just suggesting some im= provements because I think they can make a difference. In my opinion the do= cumentation is fundamental. No worries, moar critics and ideas! (: Thanks (: P.S. I also will be glad if you take a look on query server protocol and say what you think about: http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/query-server/protocol.html As the developer of php query server I believe you have your own view about= (; -- ,,,^..^,,,