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From Jason Smith <>
Subject Re: Persona and BrowserID integration
Date Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:07:47 GMT
This is an interesting argument.

Dale, what do you think about the value of "official" Persona support
in CouchDB, versus the possibility that it becomes a plugin "killer
app" or at least a decent reference implementation?

The plugin has existed for a while; however it has gotten very little
use, in part because the whole concept of a plugin is ill-defined and
brittle. You need to set ERL_ZFLAGS to activate it, to say nothing of

Also, note that I also plan to merge the OAuth plugin. Something I
could see being a plugin indefinitely is couchdb_pingquery, although
the state of the plugin system is still extremely anemic.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Dale Harvey <> wrote:
> On the topic of browser_id support in CouchDB, it feels like this is a big
> chance to push for usable plugins, should the aim for this not to be
> included into core but to be available as a one click install from
> futon/fauxton (this and geocouch seem prime candidates)?
> This isnt because I dont want browser_id support, I most definitely do, I
> recently wrote a node equivalent to Jasons browser_id plugin for the only
> reason that it would be easier for users to install / use on their local
> CouchDB instance.
> But we have a problem of support for anything 3rd party needing to be
> merged to core to be usable which is very much conflicting with peoples
> ability to get stuff done, the browser_id / geocouch and cors support have
> been around a long time but are mostly only available to the dedicated few
> (cors did eventually get merged), I would love to see a couchdb where the
> browser_id plugin was available to all users of couchdb the day you
> finished writing it, not (3?) years later
> On 29 July 2013 11:26, Jason Smith <> wrote:
>> Perfect, that is exactly what I will need. However, the first
>> milestone is rewrite my plugin in a branch, and hit the first
>> milestone.
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman <>
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jason Smith <> wrote:
>> >> To clarify, "tinfoil hat" mode is actually just a complete
>> >> implementation of the RP role, notably that it does not require the
>> >> POST to to verify an assertion. Thus, CouchDB
>> >> could be used on an intranet where an existing IdP exists. The IdP is
>> >> out of scope, but I expect to install one to test CouchDB when that
>> >> time comes.
>> >
>> > This might be useful inspiration:
>> .
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Dirkjan
>> --
>> Nodejitsu

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