Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06F5FD533 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12236 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2013 21:23:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 12134 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2013 21:23:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 12126 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2013 21:23:06 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:23:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.169] (HELO mail-ob0-f169.google.com) (209.85.214.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:23:02 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id ta14so3776411obb.14 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:22:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=eesjF5tia+0hT5yLFbMT+NGJFSeGowB6BVUQ8wAgy68=; b=Pq5w7rrqQF12tqnev3JuGImZWibVixi7WfcvAdXTYhrIRYFGmApK5ReucZe0XsqlTW FvQ8al2edW7n8j071grL+tmcCn3mKTe76I1wleO8eaemMSDqKDhwwNqmyymmH2hd6CW+ 34CaFqQ3hYz++ze5PpPd6IJGHBt3+A99ta+pYWgORk0eRParMgarcDmsB2FhJWay1erk TMWXXs+hp0R6UHEvWMCReV85xcH6fd7VpejKKxR/w3v/HLD36fNrTw2kLtMXvyYHCPZs OAOG2Q+p/U3Q9BuEq/LEK7s5LNb4mA3WE+KrTd2EjFT11q0MB3rb/sTb6/oJUhQrhqxF vUDw== X-Received: by 10.60.20.193 with SMTP id p1mr3695494oee.133.1363382561604; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:22:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.160.194 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:22:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Paul Davis Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Comments threads on Github To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > On 15 March 2013 20:13, matt j. sorenson wrote: > >> What I get back is "this is what we've always done, so this is what we'll >> always do", which is fine. >> > > I think that's a little unfair, Matt. > > Admittedly, my first instinct is to say "this is policy, it's not changing, > suck it up." But only because explaining policy takes time, and well, I am > a pretty lazy person. But I very specifically went out of my way so as not > to prop up my arguments by saying that they were policy and therefor were > beyond reproach. I explained what our goal is wrt communication, and why > the mailing list policy supports that goal. And even made it explicit that > policy can be changed. (Just to make DOUBLE sure, in my own mind, that I > was not resting on the "this is how we've always done it, so this is how > we'll always do it" line of argument.) > Just a note, but if you mean the "all project changes go through dev@" policy then I'd point out that while its theoretically true, that change would be akin to convincing the world that the sky is no longer blue. > >> And I apologize if I'm rocking the boat too much. >> > > CouchDB is a do-ocracy. And that includes boat-rocking. > Plus who ever wrote a book about calm waters? "Today I went sailing and caught a whale. The end." probably wouldn't have done much for Melville's career. > -- > NS