Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12A129EA7 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14431 invoked by uid 500); 18 Mar 2013 03:29:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 14350 invoked by uid 500); 18 Mar 2013 03:29:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 14324 invoked by uid 99); 18 Mar 2013 03:29:18 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:29:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of randall.leeds@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.50 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.219.50] (HELO mail-oa0-f50.google.com) (209.85.219.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:29:12 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l20so5198621oag.9 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:28:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BXYP2/aOjjchYcalwXCYSiUSV+XagQaZPA71Oj7iHn4=; b=hdT4VeuxNo1O9X4cCgQddDZZvM98hC8GYMXnGB4sMzvdzJPML6NppTJmDpqGO2uOx1 wtrD6PdJf68UhhTKoC/08bVI6oFJjTe8vCQ8ylXE9/1V367+Nv002OLdaL0lxBpbf3jV PCmd+VTA6L6VeHv4S0GHNVaTzTOCDUEXoFgQLNM3PIQF0Y0H72C84Lk4D6/45KiDRTbB SP+YYtX23bZVVmQx5qOy96+rBZCmB3zQPssyZgoAhcJ830v1uMyI6ojdllWqVqHImkao jUUnZWxh4jDof2hdWXSulQS+quQKqMlsziDtLI7/zGVGOQDxCV4s++c6OvMZv+vW1dBW 9H4g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.142.10 with SMTP id rs10mr6387932oeb.20.1363577331013; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.172.71 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:28:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7F425845-5281-4C69-8AE9-DA76014E618D@apache.org> References: <731E2379-0031-4137-ABB4-78914713EF8C@apache.org> <65A80E2D-0742-4C12-9671-2BA4B8ED477E@apache.org> <04890552-61B6-468B-B5F4-73B024604DFB@apache.org> <763501E5-437F-4580-A6F7-31C07A33E529@apache.org> <33F5D5E8-1913-495F-9442-AEF0BA2A6A84@apache.org> <7F425845-5281-4C69-8AE9-DA76014E618D@apache.org> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:28:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Send Github new comment notifications to the dev list From: Randall Leeds To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > > I consider this an edge case that I, again, am happy to find a technical > solution for. Until then, I do it by hand. Making automatic two-way-sync > a blocker seems overly zealous to me, when the whole idea is to get info > to dev@ that is currently not on dev@ and clearly harms the visibility > of the dev efforts of the project today (and as Noah points out for the > past 24 or so months). Automating this would be great and I would use it elsewhere. I wish github had this built in. > And now that we are bringing this up we get all sorts of FUD how this > is bad and I fail to understand why getting relevant data to dev@ is > in anyway bad and should not be implemented because there is some more > automation to be done. I agree that it's not a blocker to have only one way. Plenty of projects use Github to coordinate development and still have need for a mailing list. GIthub will not come to dominate dev@. As long as we, eventually, deliver 2-way sync, we ensure that no one is barred from contributing to the bulk of conversation. This is a fun problem, but arguing about it isn't. +1 on PRs to dev@ +1 on Jan taking point to deliver 2-way -0 on him doing it manually for any period of time. Don't do this unless you want to :).