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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:13:53 +0000
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Subject: Re: Releases procedure
From: Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org>
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I will do when my scripts are producing them. I think Bob is looking at
trying to replicate.


On 21 February 2013 18:12, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:

> Hey Noah, sorry for being snipey.
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 19:07 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I know. I've been busy working on my automation.
> >
> > Steps to reproduce:
> >
> > Spin up an xlarge Ubuntu AMI. Use most recent supported Ubuntu in quick
> > launch wizard. (ami-640a0610)
> >
> > Try "make distsign"
> >
> > That's it.
>
> Would be awesome if someone could send failure logs here.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
> --
>
>
> >
> >
> > On 21 February 2013 17:59, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Feb 21, 2013, at 18:41 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The hours and days I am spending on this release are trying to make u=
p
> >> for
> >>> a non-deterministic test suite that can take hours and hours to
> babysit,
> >> to
> >>> the point where I am having to automate my way around it.
> >>
> >> I still haven=92t seen any logs that I could use to help debug this.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The NEWS and CHANGES stuff should take 5-10 minutes tops. But if it i=
s
> >>> neglected, then the problem compounds, because now I have to look
> through
> >>> the timelines and organise things so we are consistent.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 21 February 2013 17:32, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 18:29 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Your response rests on a fallacy, in any case.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maintaining a list of release versions is going to be a PITA no
> matter
> >>>> what
> >>>>> we do. Especially when we have four or five divergent timelines.
> Moving
> >>>>> these to the docs only consolidates the maintenance into one file.
> This
> >>>>> will still require care and attention, and I believe it is
> appropriate
> >> of
> >>>>> me to remind people of that. The current state of affairs is a
> complete
> >>>>> mess.
> >>>>
> >>>> All I know is we spend hours and days on this each release and I don=
=92t
> >>>> think this needs to be the case.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best
> >>>> Jan
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 21 February 2013 17:19, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 18:16 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote=
:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you're doing a release, please ensure proper NEWS and CHANGES
> >>>> hygiene
> >>>>>>> The recent releases went out with a entries in these files for
> >> versions
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>>> have not yet released. And some are missing entries for previous
> >>>> versions
> >>>>>>> we have released. I have added a few additional instructions to t=
he
> >>>> wiki,
> >>>>>>> so hopefully these will be caught next time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alternatively, let=92s finally kill this superfluous, error-prone,
> >>>>>> time-wasting
> >>>>>> distraction from actual work and ensure the important information
> >>>> contained
> >>>>>> in it are covered in the docs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> NS
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> NS
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > NS
>
>


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