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Subject: Re: Releases procedure
From: Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
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On Feb 21, 2013, at 18:41 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:

> The hours and days I am spending on this release are trying to make up =
for
> a non-deterministic test suite that can take hours and hours to =
babysit, to
> the point where I am having to automate my way around it.

I still haven=92t seen any logs that I could use to help debug this.

>=20
> The NEWS and CHANGES stuff should take 5-10 minutes tops. But if it is
> neglected, then the problem compounds, because now I have to look =
through
> the timelines and organise things so we are consistent.
>=20
>=20
> On 21 February 2013 17:32, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 18:29 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Your response rests on a fallacy, in any case.
>>>=20
>>> Maintaining a list of release versions is going to be a PITA no =
matter
>> what
>>> we do. Especially when we have four or five divergent timelines. =
Moving
>>> these to the docs only consolidates the maintenance into one file. =
This
>>> will still require care and attention, and I believe it is =
appropriate of
>>> me to remind people of that. The current state of affairs is a =
complete
>>> mess.
>>=20
>> All I know is we spend hours and days on this each release and I =
don=92t
>> think this needs to be the case.
>>=20
>> Best
>> Jan
>> --
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On 21 February 2013 17:19, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 18:16 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> If you're doing a release, please ensure proper NEWS and CHANGES
>> hygiene
>>>>> The recent releases went out with a entries in these files for =
versions
>>>> we
>>>>> have not yet released. And some are missing entries for previous
>> versions
>>>>> we have released. I have added a few additional instructions to =
the
>> wiki,
>>>>> so hopefully these will be caught next time.
>>>>=20
>>>> Alternatively, let=92s finally kill this superfluous, error-prone,
>>>> time-wasting
>>>> distraction from actual work and ensure the important information
>> contained
>>>> in it are covered in the docs.
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jan
>>>> --
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> NS
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> NS