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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:02:10 +0100
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Subject: Re: Futon.Next Proof of Concept
From: Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com>
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because we have to  rely on node which need we need to have to build v8,
which means we have to rely on cmake or python ....


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Octavian Damiean <mainerror@gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 for Grunt.
>
> I don't quite understand this general aversion against build tools based on
> Node.js
> On Nov 1, 2012 12:02 PM, "Simon Metson" <simon@cloudant.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Just to explicit my point of view. In erica there is a coming feature
> > call
> > > hooks that can be applied at any step on the process. In parallel,
> before
> > > sending the doc the json will b e put in the .erica/build folder :
> > >
> > > .erica/build/appYYYYMMDD folder (or version if specified) , so any
> > > transformation can be applied on it.
> > >
> > > Since we are working on a version of erica that could be integrated in
> > > couch I think it worth to work with it for the next futon. And while we
> > are
> > > here improve erica to fit your needs.
> > >
> >
> > FWIW I wrote exactly this for situp (the couchapp tool I did a while
> > back). I quickly came to the conclusion that pushing data to CouchDB was
> by
> > far the smaller part of the process and grunt did the rest better. I had
> > pre/post processors that let me call out to external apps to build
> > markdown, lint js, minify js, compile less, minify css, build docco docs
> > etc. which all ended up being calls to grunt. The fact that you can push
> an
> > app into CouchDB from grunt made situp somewhat irrelevant.
> >
> > I know erica has more features than situp (e.g. the web based app builder
> > gui) but I still prefer grunt+bbb for three reasons:
> >
> >  1. it does all the build/compile/test/lint stuff today, and is very well
> > tested and documented
> >  2. it's community is much larger than ours (e.g. its the build tool of
> > jquery)
> >  3. it enforces some "best practice"
> >
> > All that said, if erica develops the same (or similar) feature set
> > (notably being able to push "CouchApps defined in a json file" as well as
> > "CouchApps defined in the file system") then I don't see a reason to not
> > use it. I have no particularly strong attachment to grunt, it's just
> seems
> > to currently be the best tool for the job.
> > Cheers
> > Simon
> >
> >
>

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