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From "Benoit Chesneau (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1259) Replication ID is not stable if local server has a dynamic port number
Date Mon, 05 Nov 2012 03:49:17 GMT


Benoit Chesneau commented on COUCHDB-1259:

We don't speak about different things. We are expecting different behaviours however.

If you have a dynamic port assignment then how knows the other node the new port ? There are
no other way than a ping-pong here. Ping-Pong that can be done in different manner. To know
this new port you will have to update the replicator doc. Or the replication client could
check on an adress table etc... In any case there will be a dialog that can be different across
applications. And this is the point, this part is generally the logic of the application or
the routing policy. A server id can be use as an adress point but some could decide to use
other parameters to associate this replication id to a node. 

Maybe instead of relying on a fixed node id, we could however introduce an arbitrary remote
 id. This remote ID would be associated by default to an host , port. The layer assigning
this address id to the host/port could be switchable, so the application or user could introduce
easily its own routing policy. Which could be relying on a server id ? Eventually if there
is an interrest like we do for the auth handlers or uuid generators, we could have different
implementations shipped with couchdb. One for example relying on a server id.

btw your example with couchbase mobile is generally solved by using the replication in pull
mode only. So here it is relying on a fixed address to replicate. A central node is then used
as a meeting point for all the data coming from other nodes and the replication is filtered
per nodes.

> Replication ID is not stable if local server has a dynamic port number
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: COUCHDB-1259
>                 URL:
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Replication
>    Affects Versions: 1.1
>            Reporter: Jens Alfke
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
>         Attachments: couchdb-1259.patch, couchdb-1259.patch
> I noticed that when Couchbase Mobile running on iOS replicates to/from a remote server
(on iriscouch in this case), the replication has to fetch the full _changes feed every time
it starts. Filipe helped me track down the problem -- the replication ID is coming out different
every time. The reason for this is that the local port number, which is one of the inputs
to the hash that generates the replication ID, is randomly assigned by the OS. (I.e. it uses
a port number of 0 when opening its listener socket.) This is because there could be multiple
apps using Couchbase Mobile running on the same device and we can't have their ports colliding.
> The underlying problem is that CouchDB is attempting to generate a unique ID for a particular
pair of {source, destination} databases, but it's basing it on attributes that aren't fundamental
to the database and can change, like the hostname or port number.
> One solution, proposed by Filipe and me, is to assign each database (or each server?)
a random UUID when it's created, and use that to generate replication IDs.
> Another solution, proposed by Damien, is to have CouchDB let the client work out the
replication ID on its own, and set it as a property in the replication document (or the JSON
body of a _replicate request.) This is even more flexible and will handle tricky scenarios
like full P2P replication where there may be no low-level way to uniquely identify the remote
database being synced with.

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