From dev-return-22869-apmail-couchdb-dev-archive=couchdb.apache.org@couchdb.apache.org Mon Aug 13 12:39:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 463F3DBBF for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79568 invoked by uid 500); 13 Aug 2012 12:38:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 70376 invoked by uid 500); 13 Aug 2012 12:30:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 55854 invoked by uid 99); 13 Aug 2012 04:06:45 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 216.119.133.2 as permitted sender) Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Importing Documentation under CC-3.0 license into CouchDB project Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 21:06:18 -0700 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <002901cd7908$fe695e70$fb3c1b50$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG+avYldSsNePabKpnu6krFJAdbWQKT7rLSl2CagoA= Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s42.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - couchdb.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org There appears to be some confusion about differences among Creative = Commons licenses. The Creative Commons Attribution is what is known as = CC/By and there is no problem with it. Creative Commons Non-Commercial = and Creative Commons Share-Alike are the problems and the discussion you = found was about CC-SA. =20 In addition, CC-0 is a quit claim -- it effectively makes a work public = domain except that the copyright owner can, I suppose, still provide = derivatives under more-restrictive licenses because the copyright does = not disappear (in the US, at least). With regard to CC-By, it is the copyright holder who gets to say what is = an acceptable attribution, and even to require that there be no = attribution in a particular case. In my experience, it is rare to find = information about what an acceptable attribution might be. It seems to me that working with publisher-ready "sources" (i.e., = DocBook) rather than the published form does not relieve one of honoring = the origin. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Paul Davis [mailto:paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 15:56 To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Cc: legal-discuss@apache.org Subject: Re: Importing Documentation under CC-3.0 license into CouchDB = project On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Dave Cottlehuber = wrote: > Hi, > > The CouchDB project received a donation of API docs [docs] > and build tools from company CouchBase [jan1][mc2], > with our PMC (Jan Lehnardt) OK to proceed [jan3]. > > 1. The licence of contribution is CC-3.0A [mc4][cc5]. Is this > compatible? > > 2. As this is a substantial contribution, can you advise if there's > any special requirements prior to pushing this into the ASF > couchdb repo? Link on legal site [asf6] suggest this should > be OK with attribution [dch7]. > > Thanks, Dave > dch@apache.org > > [docs]: = https://github.com/dch/couchdb/commit/6f64082f91ff33b4cf1d847974e353d275a= a3889 > [jan1]: = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201106.mbox/%3CA5609= C66-8D46-46E7-AFF3-73C2FBB5E574@apache.org%3E > [mc2]: = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201107.mbox/%3C35A99= 514-1B35-4B5A-AF53-9073DCE226C5@couchbase.com%3E > [jan3]: = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201202.mbox/%3CD0960= 7BA-AD27-43BD-B5C8-00CAA687A447@apache.org%3E > > [mc4]: = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201202.mbox/%3CD04AE= C0B-4C8E-43DF-8B0E-6290B9C12129@couchbase.com%3E > [cc5]: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ > [asf6]: http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa > > [dch7]: https://github.com/dch/couchdb/blob/merge_docs/NOTICE#L77-91 I'll point out that a reason that we're wondering about compatibility is that we found a section in the legal docs that mentions CC license and specifically mentions not altering the imported work at [1]. The current plan in CouchDB to import these docs will be to pull the original XML (DocBook) sources that CouchBase created, translate them into a format for Sphinx (Python's plain text system) and then continue to edit/maintain them alongside the rest of CouchDB's sources. [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org