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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:49:18 +0100
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Subject: Re: Wikipedia article cleanup
From: Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org>
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Great stuff, it's definitely improving.

On 15 April 2012 01:20, Tim McNamara <paperless@timmcnamara.co.nz> wrote:
> I've spent some time this morning, working on the introduction and
> making from stylistic changes. I think the text is much more readable
> now. Some support on more supportive matters would be welcome.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CouchDB&diff=487423562&oldid=487381176
>
> On 15 April 2012 09:44, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>> You could also pepper assertions like 'with funding from IBM' with
>> [citation needed]. Which you won't get, because it isn't true.
>>
>> B.
>>
>> On 14 April 2012 22:43, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>>> https://couchdb.apache.org/ :)
>>>
>>> On 14 April 2012 22:30, Tim McNamara <paperless@timmcnamara.co.nz> wrote:
>>>> Are there any recent primary sources to draw from? Wikipedia editors
>>>> really dislike large edits without references, even if they improve
>>>> the article.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 April 2012 07:19, Jonathan Porta <rurd4me@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Any better with this:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Apache CouchDB, commonly referred to as CouchDB, is an open source
>>>>> NoSQL database that uses JSON for documents, JavaScript for MapReduce
>>>>> queries, and HTTP for an API.[1] CouchDB was first released in 2005
>>>>> and later became an Apache project in 2008.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike in a relational database, CouchDB does not store data and
>>>>> relationships in tables, but instead stores structured data as JSON
>>>>> documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> CouchDB implements a form of Multi-Version Concurrency Control (MVCC)
>>>>> in order to avoid the need to lock the database file during writes.
>>>>> Conflicts are left to the user to resolve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other features are ACID semantics with eventual consistency,
>>>>> MapReduce, incremental replication and fault-tolerance. CouchDB ships
>>>>> with Futon, a web based administration console."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Porta
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Certainly very crufty in places. The Talk page contains unchallenged
>>>>>> (and untrue) assertions that we're all moving to Couchbase server too!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 April 2012 16:46, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does someone want to take a look at the CouchDB Wikipedia article?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The opening paragraph is terrible:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Apache CouchDB, commonly referred to as CouchDB, is an open source
>>>>>>> document-oriented database NoSQL database system. It could be considered
>>>>>>> similar to MongoDB."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A document-oriented database NoSQL database system? What. We should also
>>>>>>> not be compared to MongoDB in the first sentence. Or again, later in the
>>>>>>> article. It should be sufficient to let CouchDB stand on its own merits.
>>>>>>> Much like how the MongoDB article does not make constant comparisons with
>>>>>>> CouchDB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a number of factually incorrect statements that need cleaning up
>>>>>>> too. Like the statement that Damien Katz is our lead developer. It should,
>>>>>>> instead, be noted that he retired from our PMC. Also, IBM do not directly
>>>>>>> financially support the project, nor do any other companies. Individual
>>>>>>> developers are not sponsored either. The only sponsorship our project has
>>>>>>> is listed on the ASF sponsorship page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a few other problems too, like outdated references to Couchbase
>>>>>>> and UQL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In general, there is probably a lot of love and attention someone could
>>>>>>> pour in to this. I notice that it was updated last week to include the new
>>>>>>> version number. So someone presumably has their eye on the article. We just
>>>>>>> need a little bit more work putting in to it, I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would do this myself, but I worry that I have a strong conflict of
>>>>>>> interests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone calm and rational and distant enough want to take this on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N