Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 856739D39 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33726 invoked by uid 500); 14 Apr 2012 21:44:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 33687 invoked by uid 500); 14 Apr 2012 21:44:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 33678 invoked by uid 99); 14 Apr 2012 21:44:54 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:44:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-iy0-f180.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username rnewson, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:44:53 +0000 Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36so7878945iag.11 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:44:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.192.228 with SMTP id hj4mr1926271igc.65.1334439893030; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.240.135 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:44:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:44:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wikipedia article cleanup From: Robert Newson To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You could also pepper assertions like 'with funding from IBM' with [citation needed]. Which you won't get, because it isn't true. B. On 14 April 2012 22:43, Robert Newson wrote: > https://couchdb.apache.org/ :) > > On 14 April 2012 22:30, Tim McNamara wrote: >> Are there any recent primary sources to draw from? Wikipedia editors >> really dislike large edits without references, even if they improve >> the article. >> >> >> On 15 April 2012 07:19, Jonathan Porta wrote: >>> Any better with this: >>> >>> "Apache CouchDB, commonly referred to as CouchDB, is an open source >>> NoSQL database that uses JSON for documents, JavaScript for MapReduce >>> queries, and HTTP for an API.[1] CouchDB was first released in 2005 >>> and later became an Apache project in 2008. >>> >>> Unlike in a relational database, CouchDB does not store data and >>> relationships in tables, but instead stores structured data as JSON >>> documents. >>> >>> CouchDB implements a form of Multi-Version Concurrency Control (MVCC) >>> in order to avoid the need to lock the database file during writes. >>> Conflicts are left to the user to resolve. >>> >>> Other features are ACID semantics with eventual consistency, >>> MapReduce, incremental replication and fault-tolerance. CouchDB ships >>> with Futon, a web based administration console." >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Porta >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Robert Newson wrote: >>>> Certainly very crufty in places. The Talk page contains unchallenged >>>> (and untrue) assertions that we're all moving to Couchbase server too! >>>> >>>> B. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14 April 2012 16:46, Noah Slater wrote: >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> Does someone want to take a look at the CouchDB Wikipedia article? >>>>> >>>>> The opening paragraph is terrible: >>>>> >>>>> "Apache CouchDB, commonly referred to as CouchDB, is an open source >>>>> document-oriented database NoSQL database system. It could be considered >>>>> similar to MongoDB." >>>>> >>>>> A document-oriented database NoSQL database system? What. We should also >>>>> not be compared to MongoDB in the first sentence. Or again, later in the >>>>> article. It should be sufficient to let CouchDB stand on its own merits. >>>>> Much like how the MongoDB article does not make constant comparisons with >>>>> CouchDB. >>>>> >>>>> There are a number of factually incorrect statements that need cleaning up >>>>> too. Like the statement that Damien Katz is our lead developer. It should, >>>>> instead, be noted that he retired from our PMC. Also, IBM do not directly >>>>> financially support the project, nor do any other companies. Individual >>>>> developers are not sponsored either. The only sponsorship our project has >>>>> is listed on the ASF sponsorship page. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html >>>>> >>>>> There are a few other problems too, like outdated references to Couchbase >>>>> and UQL. >>>>> >>>>> In general, there is probably a lot of love and attention someone could >>>>> pour in to this. I notice that it was updated last week to include the new >>>>> version number. So someone presumably has their eye on the article. We just >>>>> need a little bit more work putting in to it, I think. >>>>> >>>>> I would do this myself, but I worry that I have a strong conflict of >>>>> interests. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone calm and rational and distant enough want to take this on? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> N