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From Noah Slater <>
Subject Re: website & jira
Date Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:07:33 GMT
Some comments.

"I wish it could have been discussed before too."

Sorry to jump on you here BenoƮt, but this is not the way CouchDB works.

And every time I see this unhealthy attitude raise its ugly head, I am
going to stamp on it.

CouchDB operates a culture of trust. We trust that community members are
going to act in the interests of the project. Whatever you want to do, just
have at it. It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get

The only rule to that is: don't be a berk!

This permission culture that we seem to have fostered in recent years is a
blight on the project, and it is my hope that we can use recent events to
shake it off. But we need to start by stamping it out where ever we see it.
Setting an example.

The website was not discussed prior to the launch, because I can tell you
right now, with my hand on my heart, it would never have seen the light of
day. We'd still be sat here, with a 5 year old site, moaning about it.
Because everyone thinks they know how to design, and everyone has an
opinion, and the thing would've been debated until it was killed.

You can imagine how much I flinched when I read this: "Does anyone think it
would be a good idea to list the proposed changes/issues to/with the site
and then have the community vote on them?"

Not picking on you here Jonathan, but it's a good example of what I am
talking about.

Voting on the design of the site is probably THE worst idea possible.

If we want a site that looks good, then we need to entrust a single
individual (preferably with a good eye for design, and modern design
skills) to own the site, and to take responsibility for any changes. That
is the only way we will avoid the dreaded design by committee, and it is
the only way we will be able to sensibly evolve our brand.

So, I am asking people now. Please do not touch the design of the site
unless you are prepared to take ownership of the design of the site. And I
mean complete ownership. If you want to mess with the design, please be
prepared to take further requests. This is not to discourage you. In fact,
quite the opposite. If someone wants to do this, I would be overjoyed! But
we need someone who is committed, and who can use their single, unified
vision to guide us in the right direction.

Are you a designer?

Do you think you could help to maintain our one page static HTML website?

Please get in touch. We need your help!

In the mean time chaps, I have created a wiki page to collect our ideas.

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