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From Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Problems blocking 1.2.0
Date Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:56:48 GMT
Working on it.

On 23 March 2012 13:54, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> I am available tonight to try and ship 1.2.0. Will we be ready by then?
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Randall,
>>
>> I could write a whole thing here but I'll cut it short and simply
>> apologise for any offense you have taken, it was not intended. My
>> 'chastisement' was intended humorously, but you were essentially
>> saying that your fix should have worked if only [create] worked the
>> way you imagined it did rather than how it does (which implies you
>> didn't try it).
>>
>> I'll state again that logging at debug level is not a great solution.
>> We should log at error level *except* when auto-creating the _users
>> and _replicator dbs. It's a more involved fix, but I think it's worth
>> it.
>>
>> B.
>>
>>
>> On 23 March 2012 13:28, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:15, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> I'm also -1 on your revised solution. We go to the trouble of
>> >> carefully logging and formatting these errors and then log them at a
>> >> level that approximately no one ever runs at (debug is far too noisy
>> >> to use in production, for instance).
>> >
>> > s/we/I/, and that's the point of debug.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> B.
>> >>
>> >> On 23 March 2012 13:14, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>> " Is there a good reason why we don't honor
>> >>> the create option in the way I expected?"
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there a good reason you committed a fix to a release branch without
>> >>> testing it?
>> >
>> > Are you referring to the different fix which I quickly reverted on
>> > 1.1.x? I did test that I didn't get your spurious error report, but
>> > tested more before committing to 1.2.x, caught my oversight, reverted,
>> > and offered the only solution which is non-invasive.
>> >
>> > Is there a good reason you'd prefer to chastise me than to answer my
>> > question? I woke up at 5:30am and checked my e-mail because my
>> > roommate happened to be in there already. I decided I felt guilty
>> > enough about a spurious log message and cared enough about shipping
>> > 1.2 to stay awake and investigate. I committed a fix because I was
>> > trying to be _helpful_.
>> >
>> > I'm asleep for a few hours. Happy to discuss process when I return.
>>

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