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From Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org>
Subject Re: Problems blocking 1.2.0
Date Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:54:54 GMT
I am available tonight to try and ship 1.2.0. Will we be ready by then?

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:

> Randall,
>
> I could write a whole thing here but I'll cut it short and simply
> apologise for any offense you have taken, it was not intended. My
> 'chastisement' was intended humorously, but you were essentially
> saying that your fix should have worked if only [create] worked the
> way you imagined it did rather than how it does (which implies you
> didn't try it).
>
> I'll state again that logging at debug level is not a great solution.
> We should log at error level *except* when auto-creating the _users
> and _replicator dbs. It's a more involved fix, but I think it's worth
> it.
>
> B.
>
>
> On 23 March 2012 13:28, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:15, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
> >> I'm also -1 on your revised solution. We go to the trouble of
> >> carefully logging and formatting these errors and then log them at a
> >> level that approximately no one ever runs at (debug is far too noisy
> >> to use in production, for instance).
> >
> > s/we/I/, and that's the point of debug.
> >
> >>
> >> B.
> >>
> >> On 23 March 2012 13:14, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> " Is there a good reason why we don't honor
> >>> the create option in the way I expected?"
> >>>
> >>> Is there a good reason you committed a fix to a release branch without
> >>> testing it?
> >
> > Are you referring to the different fix which I quickly reverted on
> > 1.1.x? I did test that I didn't get your spurious error report, but
> > tested more before committing to 1.2.x, caught my oversight, reverted,
> > and offered the only solution which is non-invasive.
> >
> > Is there a good reason you'd prefer to chastise me than to answer my
> > question? I woke up at 5:30am and checked my e-mail because my
> > roommate happened to be in there already. I decided I felt guilty
> > enough about a spurious log message and cared enough about shipping
> > 1.2 to stay awake and investigate. I committed a fix because I was
> > trying to be _helpful_.
> >
> > I'm asleep for a few hours. Happy to discuss process when I return.
>

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