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From Miles Fidelman <>
Subject Re: Couchbase trademark issues
Date Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:52:34 GMT
Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> I'd be interested to hear what other measures you think Couchbase could
> take? Feel free to take this to to discuss
> with the PMC as well.
One that that might help a lot is a really serious definition of what 
Couchbase is - particularly in visible locations like the front page of  While the name implies a close relationship to CouchDB, 
I really can't, for the life of me, find a clear description of what it 

I mean, CouchDB is very clearly:
- "a document-oriented database that can be queried and indexed using 
JavaScript in a MapReduce fashion"
- "A document database server, accessible via a RESTful JSON API."
with and elaborating quite nicely.
(Less visible is that CouchDB is a great application development 
platform.  I refer to couchapps, of course).

On the other hand, all I can figure out from is:
- "Couchbase is open source NoSQL for mission-critical systems." and 
that one can
- "spread your data across a cluster of machines and randomly access it 
with sub-millisecond latency"
- and it's pretty quickly obvious that the most salient features of 
CouchDB (RESTful interface, application platform) are missing from 
- by and large, it's completely useless for the kinds of things I'm 
working on (except maybe as a backend to add some scalability down the line)

What CouchDB is, and why one might use it is very clearly defined.

On the other hand, Couchbase materials (website, white paper, ...) make 
a generic case for NoSQL databases - but one that could equally apply to 
Hadoop, Riak, graph databases, and the whole range of NoSQL technologies 
and products.

Seems to me that not only would a very clear use case and functional 
description for Couchbase help distinguish the two, but would also help 
Couchbase position itself in the space of available technologies and in 
the marketplace.  If anything, the "Couch" in Couchbase implies that 
it's something like CouchDB - which it really isn't.  At best, it's not 
very helpful, at worst it's rather misleading.

Miles Fidelman

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra

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