Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7638F9E80 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33851 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2012 23:08:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 33811 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2012 23:08:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 33803 invoked by uid 99); 20 Feb 2012 23:08:23 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:08:23 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of bchesneau@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.52] (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f52.google.com) (209.85.215.52) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:08:16 +0000 Received: by lagy4 with SMTP id y4so9288184lag.11 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bchesneau@gmail.com designates 10.152.132.104 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.132.104; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bchesneau@gmail.com designates 10.152.132.104 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=bchesneau@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=bchesneau@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.132.104]) by 10.152.132.104 with SMTP id ot8mr17268730lab.17.1329779275652 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:07:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q2ckXTMm8XoDxlP5NKOQjqduxTZYtmDhJx2i0aHbb8k=; b=CCjmmyFUtM/D/N4b3zKu/+RhR46duQHUCrMZj5lXmCIn2dYecMR/cVFsV4wi0aOYbv 9TVlrB+xvyqSMXByd8fvOlRSo122GWaXYq+NhM/EGqgnOFDYm+/MMRm7xNuPf5Nm+os5 fbUXN9Q6koVX6rvZjR/PrS69RX7LTKdiwpk+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.132.104 with SMTP id ot8mr14432779lab.17.1329779275617; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.85.65 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:07:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3566B04B-3B7D-4FAD-816B-ACC7E20F8433@gmail.com> References: <6FF0CC13-1EB5-4488-AB47-74DD132EA398@gmail.com> <3335C56A-1A37-4E40-BA64-9CFA5860F4D8@purplebulldog.com> <3566B04B-3B7D-4FAD-816B-ACC7E20F8433@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:07:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Couchbase trademark issues From: Benoit Chesneau To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Mikeal Rogers w= rote: > This wasn't a statement about the website. > > Everyone in the project has their own vision of what it is suppose to be = and very few are consistent with each other. If the leaders of the project = don't have a clear vision for the project then I don't see how anyone else = could, or how you would come up with a better vision in the website for the= matter. > the good thing with a project is that multiple visions could achieve to make a project. Do you really think that all people designing the browser firefox share the same vision ? or the same for an http server ? We are all working to extend couchdb in a way it can be useful . Of we were really disagreeing on the way to develop couchdb we could just leave. Some did. > Being that we tentatively agree that there is no legal recourse it now fa= lls on the project, and nobody else, to reduce the confusion that has come = from the points you mention. s/we// not me at least > > Do we really all think that people had a clear picture of what CouchDB wa= s before Damien left the project? I won't argue that recent developments ha= ve worsened the problem but if you want to move forward and solve it you'll= need to find the source and it's not a website or comments on the creator'= s blog, it's that a shared code base does not equal a shared vision and the= project has always had a variety of different visions for what it should b= e. Hopefully enough shared vision, so people started to work all together. And apparently damien's had a different too. I don't think this is the problem here.