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From Mikeal Rogers <>
Subject Re: Couchbase trademark issues
Date Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:51:56 GMT
This wasn't a statement about the website.

Everyone in the project has their own vision of what it is suppose to be and very few are
consistent with each other. If the leaders of the project don't have a clear vision for the
project then I don't see how anyone else could, or how you would come up with a better vision
in the website for the matter.

Being that we tentatively agree that there is no legal recourse it now falls on the project,
and nobody else, to reduce the confusion that has come from the points you mention.

Do we really all think that people had a clear picture of what CouchDB was before Damien left
the project? I won't argue that recent developments have worsened the problem but if you want
to move forward and solve it you'll need to find the source and it's not a website or comments
on the creator's blog, it's that a shared code base does not equal a shared vision and the
project has always had a variety of different visions for what it should be.


On Feb 20, 2012, at February 20, 20122:39 PM, Noah Slater wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Mikeal Rogers <>wrote:
>> This is why there is confusion:
>> What is CouchDB?
>> I challenge two people to come up with a consistent answer between them
>> without collusion :)
> Mikeal, please don't intentionally (or unintentionally) muddy the waters.
> We all agree that our website could be clearer, and could present a
> unified, more up-to-date vision for the project. Bringing this up and
> presenting it as THE reason for confusion is unhelpful.
> As I stated above:
> Three (sic) things seem to be causing this confusion:
>>   - Damien works for Couchbase, and has recently abandoned CouchDB.
>>   - Damien has publicly announced that he sees Couchbase as "the future
>>   of CouchDB."
>>   - Couchbase uses the word "Couch" in it's name.
>>   - Couchbase ships a backwards incompatible CouchDB-like product.
>> If you read the original posts in the thread I link to, I think it is
> fairly clear the the MAIN source of confusion is NOT a lack of vision
> within the CouchDB project, or at least, a communication of that vision
> from our homepage.

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