Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF590942B for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32529 invoked by uid 500); 21 Oct 2011 20:21:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 32495 invoked by uid 500); 21 Oct 2011 20:21:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 32487 invoked by uid 99); 21 Oct 2011 20:21:08 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:21:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: softfail (athena.apache.org: transitioning domain of dustin@spy.net does not designate 69.230.8.158 as permitted sender) Received: from [69.230.8.158] (HELO eve.west.spy.net) (69.230.8.158) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:21:01 +0000 Received: by eve.west.spy.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3715A14BC62; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:20:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eve.west.spy.net X-Spam-Level: Received: from dhcp-113.west.spy.net (dhcp-113.west.spy.net [192.168.1.113]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by eve.west.spy.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3962914BC5E for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Sallings Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2AEE5A6B-9C8F-4310-BCF2-66ADFF44ECB7" Subject: Re: Tweaking the release procedure Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:20:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: dev@couchdb.apache.org References: <6BC9C06A-D317-409F-83E8-F898CAB3A617@spy.net> <6B64ED84-544F-4C84-9DD4-D794AD025380@spy.net> <82F3E1E5-A9C7-4EC7-BEBF-E4BAD753AF85@gmail.com> <4FD791CC-15A9-4FE9-97B6-76D1B2BD850C@spy.net> <166A20A5-399A-4965-ADB9-B4E377D0F41A@spy.net> <2913A185 -2FDD-498C-B97C-74D44199A258@apache.org> Message-Id: <93C75CB9-F856-4500-B802-D7DCA0796459@spy.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 --Apple-Mail=_2AEE5A6B-9C8F-4310-BCF2-66ADFF44ECB7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > It sounds trivial, but I think it's important to namespace these = instead of > using suffixes. The only practical difference is the grep you use when looking = for stuff, IMO. I think it will be unambiguous, but a bit less = consistent with other uses of tags in git projects. At one point, there = was a bug in some git commands involving tags with slashes in the name = (akin to spaces in filenames kinds of bugs). I'm pretty sure they've = all been fixed. The de-facto standard (i.e. the thing people would be looking = for) is to prefix release tags with a "v". e.g. "v1.1.1" > We'd then copy this to the "release/1.1.1" tag in Git once the vote = passed. I don't quite understand this language. Tags aren't copied, = they're just created. You can have as many tags as you want pointing to = the same location. > The ASF suggests (as does Jukka in this thread) that nothing be = required of the source code once the vote passes.=20 Does this just mean you don't want to have the tree = self-identify based on the latest tag pointing to it? Unlike subversion, = the *exact* code is used when accessing a tag. Example: vote-1.1.1-3 Tagger name, date message ("let's vote again on 1.1.1!") commit with hash = 23c95e52bd01542f803986aa7234980a70d655a4 v1.1.1 Tagger name, date message ("CouchDB 1.1.1 Release\n[lots of release = notes]") commit with hash = 23c95e52bd01542f803986aa7234980a70d655a4 commit with hash 23c95e52bd01542f803986aa7234980a70d655a4 Author name, date Committer name, date Description Parent pointer(s) tree with hash bc4e6b426f8004a0e0b486f6c5ea610bb2026688 It's cryptographically provable that nothing changes between = those two tags (though I'd definitely write up a fresh set of release = notes to store within that new tag). > vote/1.2.2/2 > vote/1.2.2/3 > release/1.1.1 > release/1.2.0 vs. > 1.2.1-vote2 > 1.2.2 > 1.2.2-vote1 > 1.2.2-vote2 > I think there is a much clearer separation of concerns in the first = example. It looks like you're mostly concerned about the default sorting = order of the full tag list command. I don't think it's a huge deal = either way. I'm around +0.9 on this since ambiguity goes away, but still = seems that doing a more "standard" release tag is good idea since that's = the most clear. --=20 dustin sallings --Apple-Mail=_2AEE5A6B-9C8F-4310-BCF2-66ADFF44ECB7--