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From Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Locking down the wiki
Date Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:17:41 GMT
+1 on Noah's non-Procedure.

B.

On 21 October 2011 19:14, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> Most productive edits come from regular contributors or members of the
> community. Most drive-by edits come from spammers. In fact, there are some
> spammers with genuine accounts, who make very purposeful and directed edits
> to inject links inconspicuously.
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Pepijn de Vos <pepijndevos@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I wonder what the demography is of contributors. Are they all contributors
>> and list members, or is there a reasonable portion of users that just walk
>> by, fix something and walk on.
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>
>> > Yeah, I don't think we need a Procedureā„¢ in place for this.
>> >
>> > Basically, as long as a wiki admin adds you to the contributor list,
>> you're
>> > good to go. How you reach out to that admin, or how they find out about
>> your
>> > request, is unimportant. We should present plenty of options for people
>> to
>> > contact one of us.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 18:57 , Noah Slater wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Sounds good to me.
>> >>>
>> >>> "Open a JIRA to get a wiki account" sounds very bad to me.
>> >>>
>> >>> I understand we gotta get the spam under control, but asking
>> >>> people to sign up in two places and put a potentially long
>> >>> manual setup process will kill almost any contribution energy.
>> >>> Heck, I try to avoid the wiki as much as I can as is.
>> >>>
>> >>> <insert handwavey suggestion to a better alternative>
>> >>>
>> >>> (I got nothing for now apart from moving to a better wiki, sorry)
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Jan
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Jan about multiple signups. I'd say an email to any list
>> >> or any IRC request is more than enough to get wiki edits is fine.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2011, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> To JIRA you mean?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> yes
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Benoit Chesneau <
>> >> bchesneau@gmail.com
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org
>> >
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hey,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On advice from Gavin McDonald, I'd like to suggest
that we lock
>> down
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> wiki to a list of pre-approved users. To get approved
to make
>> edits,
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>> would submit a request to one of the mailing lists
or to one of
>> the
>> >>>>> wiki
>> >>>>>>>> admins or committers. That's it. It should remove
the need to
>> >> protect
>> >>>>>>> pages
>> >>>>>>>> like the "in the wild" stuff and the people on the
couch. Other
>> >>>>> projects
>> >>>>>>>> have implemented this and they get absolutely no
spam as a result.
>> >>>>>>>> Infrastructure suggested we move to it, and I wanna
see what
>> people
>> >>>>> think
>> >>>>>>>> about it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> More info here:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> +1
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Maybe approval requests could also be submitted as tickets?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> - benoit
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>
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