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From Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org>
Subject Re: Locking down the wiki
Date Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:14:22 GMT
Most productive edits come from regular contributors or members of the
community. Most drive-by edits come from spammers. In fact, there are some
spammers with genuine accounts, who make very purposeful and directed edits
to inject links inconspicuously.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Pepijn de Vos <pepijndevos@yahoo.com>wrote:

> I wonder what the demography is of contributors. Are they all contributors
> and list members, or is there a reasonable portion of users that just walk
> by, fix something and walk on.
>
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I don't think we need a Procedureā„¢ in place for this.
> >
> > Basically, as long as a wiki admin adds you to the contributor list,
> you're
> > good to go. How you reach out to that admin, or how they find out about
> your
> > request, is unimportant. We should present plenty of options for people
> to
> > contact one of us.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 18:57 , Noah Slater wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sounds good to me.
> >>>
> >>> "Open a JIRA to get a wiki account" sounds very bad to me.
> >>>
> >>> I understand we gotta get the spam under control, but asking
> >>> people to sign up in two places and put a potentially long
> >>> manual setup process will kill almost any contribution energy.
> >>> Heck, I try to avoid the wiki as much as I can as is.
> >>>
> >>> <insert handwavey suggestion to a better alternative>
> >>>
> >>> (I got nothing for now apart from moving to a better wiki, sorry)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Jan
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
> >> I agree with Jan about multiple signups. I'd say an email to any list
> >> or any IRC request is more than enough to get wiki edits is fine.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2011, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> To JIRA you mean?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> yes
> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Benoit Chesneau <
> >> bchesneau@gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On advice from Gavin McDonald, I'd like to suggest that
we lock
> down
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> wiki to a list of pre-approved users. To get approved
to make
> edits,
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> would submit a request to one of the mailing lists or
to one of
> the
> >>>>> wiki
> >>>>>>>> admins or committers. That's it. It should remove the
need to
> >> protect
> >>>>>>> pages
> >>>>>>>> like the "in the wild" stuff and the people on the couch.
Other
> >>>>> projects
> >>>>>>>> have implemented this and they get absolutely no spam
as a result.
> >>>>>>>> Infrastructure suggested we move to it, and I wanna
see what
> people
> >>>>> think
> >>>>>>>> about it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> More info here:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe approval requests could also be submitted as tickets?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - benoit
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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