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From Noah Slater <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 1.1.1 Release
Date Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:11:58 GMT
You will excuse this duplication of topic forking. :)

It was sent before the issue was taken to a new thread, but held up in

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Noah Slater <> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Jan Lehnardt <> wrote:
>> It is only unstable in certain environments and we are constantly
>> improving all tests to be more stable in all environments, but the browser
>> world is harsh :)
>> I'd still consider having the test better than not having it at all :)
> I disagree, of course. :)
> Unstable tests are a massive problem, because they reduce the overall trust
> we have in the test suite. For a test suite to be meaningful, it needs to be
> a rock solid contract between the developers and the testers, or users. I
> think I'm preaching to the choir here though. As far as I understand it, the
> current goal is to move the test suite to a CLI version, and morph the Futon
> tests into a high-level sanity check.

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