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From Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org>
Subject Re: Locking down the wiki
Date Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:16:37 GMT
Requested.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4066

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:

>
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 20:17 , Robert Newson wrote:
>
> > +1 on Noah's non-Procedure.
>
> I claim that non-Procedure, good sir.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
> --
>
> >
> > B.
> >
> > On 21 October 2011 19:14, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> >> Most productive edits come from regular contributors or members of the
> >> community. Most drive-by edits come from spammers. In fact, there are
> some
> >> spammers with genuine accounts, who make very purposeful and directed
> edits
> >> to inject links inconspicuously.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Pepijn de Vos <pepijndevos@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wonder what the demography is of contributors. Are they all
> contributors
> >>> and list members, or is there a reasonable portion of users that just
> walk
> >>> by, fix something and walk on.
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, I don't think we need a Procedureā„¢ in place for this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Basically, as long as a wiki admin adds you to the contributor list,
> >>> you're
> >>>> good to go. How you reach out to that admin, or how they find out
> about
> >>> your
> >>>> request, is unimportant. We should present plenty of options for
> people
> >>> to
> >>>> contact one of us.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Paul Davis <
> paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 18:57 , Noah Slater wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sounds good to me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Open a JIRA to get a wiki account" sounds very bad to me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I understand we gotta get the spam under control, but asking
> >>>>>> people to sign up in two places and put a potentially long
> >>>>>> manual setup process will kill almost any contribution energy.
> >>>>>> Heck, I try to avoid the wiki as much as I can as is.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <insert handwavey suggestion to a better alternative>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (I got nothing for now apart from moving to a better wiki, sorry)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree with Jan about multiple signups. I'd say an email to any
list
> >>>>> or any IRC request is more than enough to get wiki edits is fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Benoit Chesneau <
> bchesneau@gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2011, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> To JIRA you mean?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> yes
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Benoit Chesneau
<
> >>>>> bchesneau@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Noah Slater
<
> nslater@tumbolia.org
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On advice from Gavin McDonald, I'd like
to suggest that we lock
> >>> down
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> wiki to a list of pre-approved users. To
get approved to make
> >>> edits,
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>> would submit a request to one of the mailing
lists or to one of
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> wiki
> >>>>>>>>>>> admins or committers. That's it. It should
remove the need to
> >>>>> protect
> >>>>>>>>>> pages
> >>>>>>>>>>> like the "in the wild" stuff and the people
on the couch. Other
> >>>>>>>> projects
> >>>>>>>>>>> have implemented this and they get absolutely
no spam as a
> result.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Infrastructure suggested we move to it,
and I wanna see what
> >>> people
> >>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>> about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> More info here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe approval requests could also be submitted
as tickets?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - benoit
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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