From dev-return-14848-apmail-couchdb-dev-archive=couchdb.apache.org@couchdb.apache.org Tue Feb 08 17:35:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 14175 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2011 17:35:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Feb 2011 17:35:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 21631 invoked by uid 500); 8 Feb 2011 17:35:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 21318 invoked by uid 500); 8 Feb 2011 17:35:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 21310 invoked by uid 99); 8 Feb 2011 17:35:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:35:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.82.40.36] (HELO calftrail.com) (74.82.40.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:35:38 +0000 Received: from ::ffff:68.116.10.83 ([68.116.10.83]) by calftrail.com for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:35:13 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: CouchOne + Membase = Couchbase From: Nathan Vander Wilt In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:35:13 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <00AB9C0F-D7E0-4E76-B1AA-0A36CD47E2A7@apache.org> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > Congratulations to all of you! >=20 > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 07:41, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >> Instead of dwelling on the merger or technology, I'd like to address = likely questions about the relationship between Couchbase and Apache = CouchDB. It is simple, really: at CouchOne we were 100% committed on the = Open Source side of things and at Couchbase we will continue to do so at = the same degree. In terms of organisation, Couchbase will be it's own = independent Open Source project that has Apache CouchDB and memcached as = dependencies, but adds a few things of its own that warrant being its = own project. Our combined engineering team, led by Damien, will continue = to contribute to Apache CouchDB in the same way as we've been to date, = only more. I can't wait to share with you what we'll come up with :) >=20 > And thanks for this summary of the technical side of things. Could we get a more technical, technical summary here on the list? I = appreciate the emphasis you guys are putting on marketing CouchDB to app = developers and stakeholders, but as someone who's already sold on it, = I'm still confused by what Couchbase means for the future of CouchDB. A few months ago, I read about BigCouch: BigCouch =3D (CouchDB + Amazon Dynamo clustering theory) That sounds neat, and I was getting the impression this was done in = Erlang in such a way it could become part of core and was excited for = it. Now I'm trying to figure out what Couchbase is, and my reading = indicates: Couchbase =3D (Memcached + magic) + (CouchDB + ponies) Will these new dependencies make CouchDB harder to compile and use for = personal deployments? How does merging in an in-memory cache provide the = clustered resiliency I was hoping would be possible by using BigCouch? = I'd never heard of Membase before last night, so I guess I'm just = feeling a bit like a nervous IT guy hearing the platform he relies on is = about to change in ways he doesn't understand. I'd feel more comfortable if I knew what the magic and ponies really = were at a code base level, so I could understand better how they will = change things for me and my little Couch apps. I can tell the CouchOne = guys are excited about this, though, and trust it means good things for = the CouchDB community. Congrats, and best wishes! -natevw=