Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23531 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2010 20:12:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2010 20:12:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 549 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 20:12:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 230 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 20:12:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 152 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2010 20:12:31 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:12:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.9] (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:12:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 23357 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2010 20:12:07 -0000 Received: from localhost.apache.org (HELO [192.168.0.8]) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username nslater, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:12:07 +0000 Subject: Re: why erlang? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Noah Slater In-Reply-To: <4C6996FD.4010207@meetinghouse.net> X-Noah: Awesome Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:11:58 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4C697B3C.9010000@meetinghouse.net> <4C6981E2.3020803@meetinghouse.net> <3142D1BC-BE06-465E-B163-3B965430BCAC@apache.org> <4C6989B0.70909@meetinghouse.net> <3874F95E-8079-4CFA-96E7-32DA8C0A3C2C@apache.org> <4C6996FD.4010207@meetinghouse.net> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 16 Aug 2010, at 20:52, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Actually, I'd dispute that. The INTERNET is perhaps the largest = system ever built, the web rides on top of a lot of lower level = infrastructure. There's a lot of other stuff riding on top of the = underlying IP infrastructure - email, VoIP, chat, etc. - which don't = rely on HTTP. (Note: I speak as someone who dates back to almost the = beginning - I spent a good part of my career at BBN, just as we were = transitioning the ARPANET to TCP/IP, and it was serving as the hub of = the then fledgling Internet). I was anticipating this response. :) My reply would be to state that the Web subsumes the Internet in many = ways. > True. Though, it has also lead to (IMHO) abortions such as SOAP - = which Dave Winer initially wrote as a way to use HTTP to tunnel traffic = through firewalls. LOL I think you mean XML-RPC, but they're both as bad as each other. In either case, they are so hilariously against everything the Web = stands for, it's not really applicable!=