Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 31549 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2010 12:44:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 1 Apr 2010 12:44:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 85614 invoked by uid 500); 1 Apr 2010 12:44:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 85576 invoked by uid 500); 1 Apr 2010 12:44:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 85568 invoked by uid 99); 1 Apr 2010 12:44:20 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:44:20 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of nrstott@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.221 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.221] (HELO mail-bw0-f221.google.com) (209.85.218.221) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:44:14 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so836534bwz.35 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 05:43:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IJZj/w8LoNrZjcwF5wNCZlDaumlamRUEuZ2fwvI4SMM=; b=g8Lnw2t7s5v4XJfiGS8EQ7TuVolPOh/Bb3ifOMFlkuMNEQMX4GqKT415aNdUsaHdgq pbAJioZO0yzp6ctJreJGAqmc1Opn8TU5KktMYzsfJoHfkcp+6d5f6F3DVDa5O4OwDtQw +sVpswLSlnEhnGutS8UjXbmcqHGm/wf/j4w6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BpYbT82bnU3TC9AatpStnIbaj3fXq8jPPielsdgCK6pk1C2X5ig4tU/JiIqJJpL9xS kdeBQ8KRbWvPzdSKwqxnD9sE4aM8OHms4Qf19ys8A2ezHRuzhiNRTIdiIhK8dU/kD9WU X8CIu2RCH6cX8TnUB84IQEa0+FssZ9Xkx//qk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.138 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:43:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3B248B0A-116E-4D66-9E09-E0B34A0B17C3@dionne-associates.com> References: <4BB134A9.40709@skippinet.com.au> <2CBA4A84-781D-407D-AC75-D4BD02EB6137@apache.org> <4BB3C076.6080900@gmail.com> <4BB46D42.3060009@gmail.com> <4BB488C9.2090305@gmail.com> <3B248B0A-116E-4D66-9E09-E0B34A0B17C3@dionne-associates.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:43:53 -0500 Received: by 10.204.126.84 with SMTP id b20mr1392143bks.61.1270125833657; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 05:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: (lack of) couchdb windows binaries From: Nathan Stott To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e84c22a0a704832c373d X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --0016e6d7e84c22a0a704832c373d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I could not disagree more about packaging Erlang. I do not know any windows developers who already have Erlang installed! Most users of CouchDB, certainly on Windows, will not have used Erlang before coming to CouchDB. Suggesting that packaging the Erlang binaries with the installer will decrease adoption sounds ludicrous. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Robert Dionne wrote: > I tend to agree with you on this. If, for example, you look at Eclipse you > can see it's capable of using multiple versions of Java that might be > installed on the same box. Many installers bundle their own JRE precisely to > insure they get things right. However, the current level of Erlang and > CouchDB I'd go with the latter approach for now. It sounds like you have > larger fish to fry still. > > Best, > > Bob > > > > > On Apr 1, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Mark Hammond wrote: > > > Just to follow up on a bit of this: > > > > On 1/04/2010 10:09 PM, Carl McDade wrote: > >> Wampserver, Xammp etc. But it does not appear to do this yet. So while > YAWS, > >> Ejabbard and other software would be running on single instance of > Erlang. > >> guaranteeing use of single version, CouchDB might be running on a > different > >> version. > > > > It appears the ejabberd installer for windows takes the same approach as > us - the webpage says "The installers contain all the libraries and > dependencies needed to run ejabberd" and indeed, a copy of the erlang > runtime and binaries are installed directly in the ejabberd directory - ie, > it appears to not offer installing into an already installed erlang binary > distribution either. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark > > --0016e6d7e84c22a0a704832c373d--