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Subject: Re: (lack of) couchdb windows binaries
From: Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:52:29 +0200
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(Sending again to keep the thread alive, sorry for the mis-reply)

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Okay, I did some research and came across

http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b

Our dependencies are:

 - Erlang, http://erlang.org/ License EPL: =
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/erlang/EPLICENSE
 - Spidermonkey, Mozilla's JavaScript engine, =
http://www.mozilla.org/js/spidermonkey/ License MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license
 - ICU, IBM Components for Unicode, http://icu-project.org/ License ICU =
(MIT like: =
http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icu/trunk/license.html)

And the URL above clearly states that we can ship binaries with these =
included if we label the binary accordingly.

So I think there is no legal issue and we can proceed as planned (see my =
next mail).

I mentioned a potential legal issue to Mark on IRC just because I wasn't =
sure about the situation but I *was* sure that I wanted to be rather =
safe than sorry.

Cheers
Jan
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On 31 Mar 2010, at 13:09, Jan Lehnardt wrote:

> I'm on it.
>=20
> Mark, aside from Erlang, Spidermonkey and ICU, are there any other =
pieces in the installer, like Windows dev-tools/libs?
>=20
> Cheers
> Jan
> --
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 31 Mar 2010, at 13:00, Noah Slater wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On 31 Mar 2010, at 02:03, Mark Hammond wrote:
>>=20
>>> Great - it can be found at =
http://people.apache.org/~mhammond/dist/0.11.0/
>>=20
>> Would you like to call the vote on this yourself? If you prepared the =
Windows artefacts, and called the vote, that should remove the =
dependancy chain between me and you - as well as speeding things up =
quite a bit, and taking a little bit of the load of my back. Can I just =
double check that you prepared this from THE source artefact?
>>=20
>>> Sorry, but this needs to be undertaken by someone who actually =
believes there is an issue and can articulate it.
>>=20
>> Not true, it just needs to be done by someone who understands how the =
package is built.
>>=20
>> The purpose of legal-discuss is for developers who generally don't =
know or care about the legal things to get a "yea" or a "nay" from =
people who do. It would be enough simply for you to tell them what =
you've put into the artefact, and how it's built, and then just ask them =
for a thumbs up before the vote.
>>=20
>> To re-itterate, you don't have to think there is a problem, or =
describe any legal issue. All you have to do is provide a description of =
how you packaged CouchDB for Windows, and ask them for approval. They =
may ask you a few technical questions (ones which I could not answer, =
for example - and I don't fancy playing chinese whispers for people) to =
get clarification on a few points - but it shouldn't be anything you =
can't answer.
>>=20
>> If you're going to be part of the release process here, it would make =
sense for you to get involved with legal-discuss.
>>=20
>=20