From dev-return-6922-apmail-couchdb-dev-archive=couchdb.apache.org@couchdb.apache.org Fri Oct 16 06:49:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 4348 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2009 06:49:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Oct 2009 06:49:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18286 invoked by uid 500); 16 Oct 2009 06:49:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 18190 invoked by uid 500); 16 Oct 2009 06:49:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 18180 invoked by uid 99); 16 Oct 2009 06:49:49 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:49:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of xcinnebar@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.173] (HELO mail-px0-f173.google.com) (209.85.216.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:49:46 +0000 Received: by pxi3 with SMTP id 3so2176514pxi.29 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZHfc6eBRwfRdkUUlSvrfTslvt6V2LPIWifHjc1bT0L8=; b=Y51QLDqsqUqP7MpH2CXMQL3sY336IebnhtoPRythPKUQiflIjtk3fskrzVKT6kpFpR sZlt8ww2jp8ocBEszYVGAjgatC2oOu0FuTgniq8I6PsH/NnqUwqfXkC3LRI95jMxM8RA ZpEax/cZpgf9H6QGH695xCQilS/ARvqc/ciQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Qa27S8GwcPmVTHIxHxy70lZLT6S8I5B21SSDzciVdl5B9pMhSmQwUx8S/rTih85WOV LH/lR7WzFPjYLJ2UDYIx+Zyc27PMYejDe+2FJbv/NfUoryGroKhqNoyWf2y9N+c0olvi Qme9TDqhnmhc+vQWfJv1u3U059NBV1D3w2+p8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.40.12 with SMTP id s12mr19571rvj.235.1255675766162; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:49:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <66f04a9d0910150120s63720f6ds179d6d7b4f47919a@mail.gmail.com> <478E249A-B7F2-4250-89A9-B2B0942E8735@dionne-associates.com> <66f04a9d0910150829m12118a34ucc4e3f532f3dcc@mail.gmail.com> <424F3ADD-3CB6-4DA8-B4BF-31B7608D93D6@tumbolia.org> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:49:26 +1100 Message-ID: <66f04a9d0910152349m7917a5b0k499e7305af1b8951@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ann] Relaxville, test suite reporter From: cinnebar To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1513cfec597047607cbd6 --000e0cd1513cfec597047607cbd6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Chris Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Oliver Boermans > wrote: > > 2009/10/16 Noah Slater : > >> > >> I think the real problem is that it is has nothing to do with CouchDB, > heh. > > > > Any good design solution needs the problem to be defined upfront, > > otherwise the only tool at your disposal to measure it=92s success is > > personal and likely irrelevant. > > I'm a big fan of the personal and irrelevant aspects of software. What > gets me going about CouchDB is the idea that everyone can run their > own version of their favorite software. > Yep this is now a remarkable and distinctive aspect of CouchDB that is difficult to explain to anyone running on legacy... What if Gmail was as hackable as Emacs? Cinnebar, I think you should go crazy with your crazy headers, I'll > probably keep whatever I release clean and simple, but if someone > kicks up a theme engine, and a way to swap those around, even better. > > > > So I would first ask a few questions regarding the intended context > > and purpose of the design in question: > > > > - What does it need to communicate? > > - Who does it need to communicate to? > > - etc > > > > If you are looking to brand a tool it=92s useful to define what the > > proposition is for potential users first. > > What does CouchDB offer that distinguishes it from available > alternatives. > > > > From my experience with it so far =93Relax=94 is excellent starting poi= nt! > > > > > > -- > Chris Anderson > http://jchrisa.net > http://couch.io > --000e0cd1513cfec597047607cbd6--