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From Robert Dionne <>
Subject Re: Uneasiness with use of github for experimentation
Date Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:13:54 GMT
Git really encourages a more distributed, less centralized approach to  
development, that allows the centers of gravity to move as they  
evolve. This is a good and healthy thing in many contexts, perhaps  
less so in others.

I'm not sure what the issue is with respect to the CLA. What prevents  
you from representing a contribution as your original work because it  
originated in GitHub? How does playing in an internal Apache sandbox  
solve that?

It's important to recognize that not everyone in the CouchDB community  
is necessarily part of the Apache community. Some are just friendly  



On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Curt Arnold wrote:

> While I'm bringing up contentious issues, use of github for a  
> sandbox for developing significant modifications to CouchDB makes me  
> uneasy.  If I start something on github and accept contributions and  
> ideas from other uses, I can't represent the eventual patch as my  
> original work (as required by the CLA).  Also, it reduces the  
> visibility (barring an explicit opt-in) of the development from the  
> radar of the PMC and community.  Other ASF projects have created  
> "sandboxes" in their SVN for experimental work and the threshold for  
> commit access to the sandbox could be lower than the trunk (still  
> would require CLA and an Apache account).  Any Apache committer  
> could use Apache Labs, but since that is not developed with the  
> oversight of the community that still needs a pass through the  
> Incubator.  Having a sandbox or labs branch in the CouchDB SVN would  
> provide a location for non-trunk development that is still under the  
> oversight of the PMC and community.

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