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From Dave butlerdi <butle...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Introducing CouchDB Ltd.
Date Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:23:25 GMT
Was quite suprised to see CouchDB Ltd on the slides from the Hadoop meeting
in Berlin. Was unable to get up there but really think that this is a bad
move.
You are an Apache project and this just seems counter productive. I also
think that several other projects have become entailed  of this type of
behaviour and had problems with Apache in the end.
I do not commit, not am I interested in commercialising my experience with
the product,  but use Couch. However, to use the project name for commercail
gain by a few does seem wrong. Why not follow the Ruby/Rails example and set
up a community effort for the provision of services under the CouchDB name.

Just my .02.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Damien Katz <damien@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Standard disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.
> >
> > The name of the official project is Apache CouchDB. I see CouchDB as
> being
> > like Linux, where (as far as I know anyone) is free to use the name. So,
> IMO
> > it is completely fair to name a company CouchDB Ltd. But it also means
> > anyone else can name their company CouchDB LLC or The Real CouchDB Ltd.
> This
> > is a bigger problem. You don't have a defensible trademark.
> >
>
> FWIW, the foundation has defended its project names as trademarks in the
> past, gently notifying companies that it'd be nicer if they didn't use that
> name (thinking of Tomcat and Wicket here for example). I don't know how
> that
> would stand in court but it's never been necessary to go to a court so far,
> so I guess the point is moot.
>
> Matthieu
>
>
>
> >
> > -Damien
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 8, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Chris Anderson wrote:
> >
> >  Devs,
> >>
> >> I've felt the fair-competition argument a little on my own, so hearing
> >> it from other quarters gives it even greater weight. We're discussing
> >> ways to proceed that take into account the full community, including
> >> competitors (of which we hope to have many!)
> >>
> >> Thanks for the perspective, everyone. We'll have more to announce in
> >> the next few days.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris Anderson
> >> http://jchris.mfdz.com
> >>
> >
> >
>



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