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On 06/02/2009, at 1:32 PM, Antony Blakey wrote:

> In short, I think it is a mistake to try and hide the different  
> characteristics of local (even clustered) operations, and  
> replication. You may disagree, but if the system distinguishes  
> between these two fundamentally different things (distinguished by  
> their partition-tolerance), you can code as though every operation  
> leads to conflict if you wish, but I can't take advantage of the  
> difference.

... if the system doesn't distinguish between those two cases.  
Distinguishing between the two cases allows for a wider range of uses  
and application models.

Antony Blakey
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