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From Antony Blakey <>
Subject Re: [RESULT]: Accept newline patch into CouchDB for 0.9 (Was: Re: VOTE: accept newline patch into CouchDB for 0.9)
Date Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:25:51 GMT

On 25/02/2009, at 12:45 AM, Noah Slater wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:29:08AM +1030, Antony Blakey wrote:
>> My suggestion arising from this is that voting a community vote where
>> everyone states their case and casts a vote is followed by a PMC
>> decision. It seems (to me) confusing to have this multi-class voting
>> system which conflates two separate processes.
>> The PMC decision would only need explanation if it were a veto of a
>> community vote.
> No, this jars strongly with my understanding of the Apache Way.
>  Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a community-specific  
> thing.
>  However, the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding  
> votes, and all
>  others are either discouraged from voting (to keep the noise down)  
> or else
>  have their votes considered of an indicative or advisory nature only.
>                                 --
> I think we have followed this official document to the letter, and  
> in spirit.
> You are suggesting that Apache voting should be done by the  
> community at large,
> and then the PMC should decide in private which option to take. This  
> is not how
> things are meant to work. We had one vote which was opened up to  
> everyone. We
> have properly taken advice from the community, but would like to  
> have further
> discussion before we accept or reject the change.

OK, that's clear.

Antony Blakey
CTO, Linkuistics Pty Ltd
Ph: 0438 840 787

In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when there is  
no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to  
take away.
   -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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