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From Antony Blakey <>
Subject Re: [jira] Closed: (COUCHDB-188) _bulk_docs fails when deleting and adding a doc with the same id
Date Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:41:02 GMT

On 26/01/2009, at 8:33 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:

> On 24 Jan 2009, at 21:37, Matt Goodall wrote:
>> 2009/1/24 Matt Goodall <>:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm a bit confused why this was closed. Perhaps a description of the
>>> "new behaviour" is available somewhere?
>>> The only mention of anything related to a change in _bulk_docs I've
>>> *noticed* is about not failing everything in the list of updates
>>> (might be nice if that was optional, actually) and the associated
>>> error reporting. However, that doesn't necessarily fix the problem I
>>> described.
>> Actually, I think I misunderstood the change. It seems it's only to
>> say what document failed, i.e. better error reporting, in which case,
>> a) the change sounds good, b) there is nothing to make optional, c) I
>> still don't think it addresses the issue. Please correct me if I'm
>> wrong!
> We can't sensibly make bulk requests with database partitioning
> over multiple nodes. Damien talked about changing the bulk request
> behaviour also for single-nodes to avoid confusion. If I understand
> correctly, bulk writes then work a lot like replication, in that your
> data gets written in any case but might cause conflicts and you
> can find out where conflicts occurred using a view checking
> the `_conflicts` member of a doc.

What about uses that don't require database partitioning? Why remove a  
feature useful for a particular use case? You could add a new feature  
that implements this kind of functionality in a partitioned database,  
and either return some kind of error from _bulk_docs. This change  
makes it a lot more complicated for the client to deal with, and it's  
forcing everyone to pay for a feature that only some may use.

Antony Blakey
CTO, Linkuistics Pty Ltd
Ph: 0438 840 787

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