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From Peter Kelly <pmke...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [dfwebserver] Python binding
Date Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:02:45 GMT
Thans Franz, that’s excellent.

And Dennis: I was probably a bit strong in my comments… sorry about that. I just want to
make sure we’re valuing people at least as much as process.

—
Dr Peter M. Kelly
pmkelly@apache.org

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> On 17 Mar 2015, at 8:23 am, Franz de Copenhague <franzdecopenhague@outlook.com>
wrote:
> 
> I have already sent the signed PDF to secretary@apache.org
> 
> Thanks,
> franz
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Kelly [mailto:pmkelly@apache.org]
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 9:09 PM
>> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [dfwebserver] Python binding
>> 
>> Dennis: I understand your concerns about ICLA etc and appreciate you raising
>> this important issue. However I feel that the way in which you are
>> approaching it is being actively hostile towards a new contributor; we want to
>> attract people and we must express that their contributions are valued, and
>> work towards doing so. The two patches I’ve committed from Franz so far
>> have been small enough that according to my understanding they fall within
>> the same categorisation normally applied to patches - if a larger amount of
>> code were in question, then I would have acted differently.
>> 
>> I should mention that there were multiple issues that came up during my
>> journey into Apache and at one point I actually said I didn’t want any part of
it
>> and would take the project to Github or somewhere else. I only stuck with it
>> because of the encouragement of certain people. Policies and licensing are
>> certainly very important, but so are people - both are necessary
>> requirements for a project to succeed.
>> 
>> That doesn’t mean of course that we can skip on any rules - like any project
>> we must make sure we’re fulfilling the necessary legal requirements for
>> accepting contributions. So:
>> 
>> Franz: Welcome. As you’ve seen, one of the things that we’re supposed to
>> do for non-trivial contributions is for Apache to have an ICLA
>> (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt) on file from contributors. I can see
>> you’re doing some good work and anticipate more code from you. Would
>> you be willing to fill out an ICLA so that we can ensure we are meeting the
>> necessary legal/policy requirements in accepting your code? (this is a pre-
>> requisite for all people wishing to become committers to Apache projects).
>> 
>> —
>> Dr Peter M. Kelly
>> pmkelly@apache.org
>> 
>> PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key
>> <http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key> (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0
>> 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966)
>> 
>>> On 16 Mar 2015, at 11:44 pm, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 16 March 2015 at 17:14, Dennis E. Hamilton
>>> <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It occurred to me that these are substantial contributions.
>>>> 
>>> I have to disagree with you here. You forget the big part is standard
>>> code and not something Franz has made. He has basically made the
>>> python bindings and that is not a substantial contribution.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It is important for Franz to provide a Contributor License Agreement.
>>>> See <http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas>.
>>>> 
>>> No it is not. We do not demand that Franz sign a ICLA. But if Franz
>>> would like to sign one, it would be beneficial to us all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Franz, if you have any questions about this and submitting the
>>>> agreement, you can ask on this list.  If you want to discuss this
>>>> privately, you can send your comments and questions to
>>>> private@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Dennis@ please do not put this as a demand, when we have another
>>> thread where we said it is not needed....we as PMC has not even discussed
>> it.
>>> 
>>> Franz@ If you would like to sign an ICLA as a first step of comming
>>> closer to the project, please follow what Dennis writes. BUT your work
>>> is apriciated with our without an ICLA.
>>> 
>>> rgds
>>> jan I.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Dennis
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Peter Kelly [mailto:pmkelly@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 08:48
>>>> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [dfwebserver] Python binding
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Mar 2015, at 10:33 pm, Franz de Copenhague <
>>>> franzdecopenhague@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Attached you have the path.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Franz - received and committed. Looks like some good progress,
>>>> nice to see.
>>>> 
>>>> —
>>>> Dr Peter M. Kelly
>>>> pmkelly@apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key
>>>> <http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key> (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F
>>>> BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
> 


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