Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-corinthia-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-corinthia-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9227C17C51 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 16:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17786 invoked by uid 500); 4 Feb 2015 16:42:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-corinthia-dev-archive@corinthia.apache.org Received: (qmail 17759 invoked by uid 500); 4 Feb 2015 16:42:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15804 invoked by uid 99); 4 Feb 2015 16:42:29 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:42:29 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of kellypmk@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.54] (HELO mail-pa0-f54.google.com) (209.85.220.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:42:24 +0000 Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id eu11so3649140pac.13 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:40:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=VrZxKcW1jE1+7qgbDH945NIsoZ6iiHvEbo0GQ28njwA=; b=MJGxEsz9QetkrtR9S2eJn49XvPsFjKsvHGXKaVCndx2w5G5be7VNpGi60BdH/8oUlq iaXRa/l+vgbEZ242d/saO4/nFikXkEwkBG70IlVZKAjtFU/1yUVPbI6HZmerQpm5ZCl5 o4qIAJemra9gd1P3UjK8bOK7j5ss6RQ4+gRSeM3flpBv0sP5cVe811ouFvXnAb6X2IQF Nza8IRRYsbRhpARIhBrCGHZKGs0OP6mhJzmdfs4ZdJNgQB4TDUyCUVdW43er5x1ZWfq7 g5zniF2Krn5J74N4FZFdF4/IA84N77hACwQUTuaEaC6YyvOw/oJc2stKSh1COAHOg1oD w8tw== X-Received: by 10.68.218.196 with SMTP id pi4mr16551065pbc.124.1423068034328; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.36] ([202.44.228.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id go1sm1813751pbd.75.2015.02.04.08.40.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:40:33 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Kelly Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C966FC46-B12F-4F8E-AED3-6C33BDCAC6E7" Message-Id: <9ECC80AF-D342-4CCD-99D8-830895639B3B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re=3A_Apache=E2=84=A2_PDFBox=E2=84=A2_named_an_Open_So?= =?utf-8?Q?urce_Partner_Organization_of_the_PDF_Association_=3A_T?= =?utf-8?Q?he_Apache_Software_Foundation_Blog?= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 23:40:28 +0700 References: <729A8170-B03D-4580-AFE5-9BFC475D1659@gmail.com> <005901d03fd4$a0c8df80$e25a9e80$@acm.org> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_C966FC46-B12F-4F8E-AED3-6C33BDCAC6E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 4 Feb 2015, at 5:47 pm, Edward Zimmermann = wrote: >=20 > Does this have anything to do with Corinthia? No. Corinthia is about = content and especially word processing formats (OOXML, ODF etc.).. = Corinthia is at its core about pragmatic fidelity. The point of the = bidirectional transformation model is to be able to reduce fidelity = demands. Unless the project wants to get sidetracked into HiFi rendering = (of DOCX or ODT) it's completely outside of the scope=E2=80=A6. I think of PDF in the same way as I do PNG. It=E2=80=99s intended as an = output format, not an input format. I know there are tools out there = which are effectively half of an OCR system which can reconstruct a = source document by inferring the logical structure from the layout (e.g. = where a paragraph begins and ends), though this is quite a difficult = problem and I=E2=80=99m not sure that it=E2=80=99d be within the scope = of Corinthia (though if someone has ideas on this and wants to work on = it, I=E2=80=99m all for it - it=E2=80=99s just a very difficult and very = different task to writing filters for all the other formats we=E2=80=99ve = discussed). On the other side is output to PDF - that is, typesetting. This is = something I also think would be outside the scope of the project (at = least based on my understanding of people=E2=80=99s interests to date). = We basically rely on separate programs to do the typesetting of a = document produced by the library, e.g. LaTeX, WebKit/other browser = engines. -- Dr. Peter M. Kelly kellypmk@gmail.com http://www.kellypmk.net/ PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key = (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966) --Apple-Mail=_C966FC46-B12F-4F8E-AED3-6C33BDCAC6E7--