Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-corinthia-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-corinthia-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09A89101F7 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88758 invoked by uid 500); 13 Feb 2015 18:43:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-corinthia-dev-archive@corinthia.apache.org Received: (qmail 88730 invoked by uid 500); 13 Feb 2015 18:43:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88716 invoked by uid 99); 13 Feb 2015 18:43:08 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:43:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: softfail (nike.apache.org: transitioning domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org does not designate 216.234.124.52 as permitted sender) Received: from [216.234.124.52] (HELO barracuda.supercp.com) (216.234.124.52) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:42:42 +0000 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1423852930-089ef734202fe3070001-KCmPzH Received: from a2s42.a2hosting.com (a2s42.a2hosting.com [216.119.133.2]) by barracuda.supercp.com with ESMTP id FwdjV4urBVecHHE2 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:42:10 -0500 (EST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: dennis.hamilton@acm.org X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 216.119.133.2 Received: from 75-165-123-152.tukw.qwest.net ([75.165.123.152]:33147 helo=Astraendo2) by a2s42.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1YMLBn-001wmr-Au for dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:42:08 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: References: <00d901d0476d$78e33d30$6aa9b790$@acm.org> <822A3CC3-5419-41DD-A2EA-33DD9DBE52C4@apache.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: "I'd Really Like This Done By Friday" Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:42:08 -0800 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: "I'd Really Like This Done By Friday" Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <001201d047bc$c625e3a0$5271aae0$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQHb2BvAfbuMthKeewYfp79YTdVWigKTIfZQAXCbVx2cty6/kA== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s42.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - corinthia.incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: a2s42.a2hosting.com: authenticated_id: himself+orcmid.com/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Barracuda-Connect: a2s42.a2hosting.com[216.119.133.2] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1423852930 X-Barracuda-URL: http://barracuda.supercp.com:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi Received-SPF: softfail (supercp.com: domain of transitioning dennis.hamilton@acm.org does not designate 75.165.123.152 as permitted sender) X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at supercp.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests=BSF_SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.15249 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 BSF_SPF_SOFTFAIL Custom Rule SPF Softfail X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I see the perspective that Peter and Jan have about this. I have only one comment. -- replying below to -- From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 02:47 To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: "I'd Really Like This Done By Friday" On 13 February 2015 at 11:33, Peter Kelly wrote: > > On 13 Feb 2015, at 4:14 pm, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: You do not need to be a super programmer to do things with Corinthia - you could easy add the getopt-long option we have in jira. - you could easy get the editor working within e.g. firefox and more One important lesson in my career is to not assume what is easy and hard for others, especially when it mainly exists as a mental edifice in the mind of the supposer. The getopt-long adaptation is interesting to me personally, but my understanding is that there is no immediate need for it at this time, even though I foresee its use in utilities we don't have yet. I may take that on once I have concluded the analysis that I mention in the issue. [ ... ]