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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: svn commit: r1649986 - /incubator/corinthia/www/index.html
Date Wed, 07 Jan 2015 17:30:17 GMT
What "Foundation Manual" are you talking about, Jan?  I could find no foundation documentation.
If I had found it I would have used it.  Also what does beta have to do with it?

Please provide links.  I found no download options for manuals and may have been looking in
the wrong places.

Also, I did nothing to the <small> element.  I left it untouched.  I touched the <p>
element.  

Please identify where I too can learn the prerequisites that are known to you.  With links
please.

 - Dennis



-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 08:47
To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; Dennis Hamilton
Subject: Re: svn commit: r1649986 - /incubator/corinthia/www/index.html

On 7 January 2015 at 17:32, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
wrote:

[ ... ]

you lost the rest of the css settings for "small". F.x. on my version of
foundation (which is a beta version), "small" uses different font sizes
depending on the size of the device you use.

When you use foundation (and other setups like that) it is pretty important
you do it all over, otherwise you end up with all kind of funny effects.

The right way, is as described in the foundation manual, make a new style
that inherits from "small", with the added CSS styling...and that the only
way it should be done.


>
> If you or Dorte can explain to me how to accomplish this in a
> responsive-compliant manner, I will make that change.
>
Read the foundation manual. If you want to change the layout it is no
problem for me, but it is pretty hard to learn you how to use foundation
over mail.


>
> If there is no way to accomplish the change in a responsive manner, I
> suggest there is something wrong with our choice of tools.
>
Would you please stop !! read the foundation manual, and then you will see
there are plenty of ways to do this.


>
> I cannot find documentation on foundation.js and foundation.css and I am
> not going to pay to take the training on it.
>
I found several manual on the foundation site, together with examples. And
I have heard (but not used) that there should be a free online couse.

Nobdy is asking you to take training on foundation....the easiest solution
would be you concentrate on the content as I do, and leave the layout to
dorte (of course still giving dorte input to how it should look like).


>
>  - Dennis
>
> PS: I would very much like to see some sort of style sheet that says what
> classes we should be using on what elements to achieve the desired
> responsive design and appearance.  When we come up with a new case (like
> the fine print that goes with the Incubator logo), the style sheet should
> be expanded to show how to cover that case.
>

In my world....we should concentrate on giving the content, and leaving the
rest to dorte, who knows what she is doing.

rgds
jan i.

>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 01:06
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r1649986 - /incubator/corinthia/www/index.html
>
> On Wednesday, January 7, 2015, <orcmid@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Author: orcmid
> > Date: Wed Jan  7 02:20:29 2015
> > New Revision: 1649986
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1649986
> > Log:
> > BRUTE-FORCE FIX: The excessive leading in the small text of the Apache
> > Incubator notice is hacked to <p style="line-height: 66%"> directly.  I
> was
> > unable to crack the code on foundation.js and foundation.css so I made
> this
> > direct style.
>
>
> In my opinion this fix is no good.
>
> It breaks the responsive design. If you want something different than
> "small" then you should inherit that css style, so we dont loose all the
> other properties.
>
> I suggest to revert this patch.
>
>
> jan i
>
> >
> > Modified:
> >     incubator/corinthia/www/index.html
> >
> > Modified: incubator/corinthia/www/index.html
> > URL:
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/corinthia/www/index.html?rev=1649986&r1=1649985&r2=1649986&view=diff
> >
> >
> ==============================================================================
> > --- incubator/corinthia/www/index.html (original)
> > +++ incubator/corinthia/www/index.html Wed Jan  7 02:20:29 2015
> > @@ -9,89 +9,89 @@
> >    </head>
> >    <body>
> >    <div class="fixed">
> > -  <nav class="top-bar" data-topbar role="navigation">
> > -  <ul class="title-area"> <li class="name"> <h1><a href="#"></a></h1>
> > </li>
> > -  <!-- Remove the class "menu-icon" to get rid of menu icon. Take out
> > "Menu" to just have icon alone -->
> > -  <li class="toggle-topbar menu-icon"><a
> > href="#"><span>Menu</span></a></li> </ul>
> > -  <section class="top-bar-section">
> > -  <!-- Right Nav Section -->
> > -          <ul class="right">
> > -                  <li class="has-dropdown"><a href="#">Community</a>
> > -                          <ul class="dropdown">
> > -                                  <li><a
> > href="contribute_community.html">Community</a></li>
> > -                                  <li><a
> href="contribute_howto.html">How
> > to contribute</a></li>
> > -                                  <li><a
> > href="contribute_committer.html">Committers</a></li>
> > -                          </ul>
> > -                       </li>
> > -                  <li class="has-dropdown"><a href="#">Polices</a>
> > -                          <ul class="dropdown">
> > -                                  <li><a
> href="policy_coding.html">Coding
> > standard</a></li>
> > -                                  <li><a href="policy_git.html">Git
> > usage</a></li>
> > -                          </ul>
> > -                       </li>
> > -                  <li class="has-dropdown"><a href="#">Guides</a>
> > -                          <ul class="dropdown">
> > -                                  <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Git+FAQ"
> > target="_blank">Git FAQ</a></li>
> > -                                  <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Test+FAQ"
> > target="_blank">Test FAQ</a></li>
> > -                                  <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Build+FAQ"
> > target="_blank">Build FAQ</a></li>
> > -                          </ul>
> > -                       </li>
> > -                       <li class="has-dropdown"><a
> > href="#">Documentation</a>
> > -                               <ul class="dropdown">
> > -                                   <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia">Wiki</a></li>
> > -                                  <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Roadmap"
> > target="_blank">Roadmap</a></li>
> > -                                  <li><a
> > href="learnmore.html">Background</a></li>
> > -                               </ul>
> > -                       </li>
> > -               </ul>
> > -         </div>
> > -         <!--content section -->
> > +  <nav class="top-bar" data-topbar role="navigation">
> > +  <ul class="title-area"> <li class="name"> <h1><a href="#"></a></h1>
> > </li>
> > +  <!-- Remove the class "menu-icon" to get rid of menu icon. Take out
> > "Menu" to just have icon alone -->
> > +  <li class="toggle-topbar menu-icon"><a
> > href="#"><span>Menu</span></a></li> </ul>
> > +  <section class="top-bar-section">
> > +  <!-- Right Nav Section -->
> > +       <ul class="right">
> > +           <li class="has-dropdown"><a href="#">Community</a>
> > +               <ul class="dropdown">
> > +                   <li><a
> > href="contribute_community.html">Community</a></li>
> > +                   <li><a href="contribute_howto.html">How to
> > contribute</a></li>
> > +                   <li><a
> > href="contribute_committer.html">Committers</a></li>
> > +               </ul>
> > +            </li>
> > +           <li class="has-dropdown"><a href="#">Polices</a>
> > +               <ul class="dropdown">
> > +                   <li><a href="policy_coding.html">Coding
> > standard</a></li>
> > +                   <li><a href="policy_git.html">Git usage</a></li>
> > +               </ul>
> > +            </li>
> > +           <li class="has-dropdown"><a href="#">Guides</a>
> > +               <ul class="dropdown">
> > +                   <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Git+FAQ"
> > target="_blank">Git FAQ</a></li>
> > +                   <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Test+FAQ"
> > target="_blank">Test FAQ</a></li>
> > +                   <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Build+FAQ"
> > target="_blank">Build FAQ</a></li>
> > +               </ul>
> > +            </li>
> > +            <li class="has-dropdown"><a href="#">Documentation</a>
> > +                <ul class="dropdown">
> > +                        <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia">Wiki</a></li>
> > +                   <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia/Roadmap"
> > target="_blank">Roadmap</a></li>
> > +                   <li><a href="learnmore.html">Background</a></li>
> > +                </ul>
> > +            </li>
> > +        </ul>
> > +      </div>
> > +      <!--content section -->
> >      <div class="row">
> >        <div class="large-12 columns">
> > -         <div class="panel">
> > -         <img src="img/webbanner.jpg" width="1800" height="790" alt=""
> > title="" />
> > -               <h3>
> > -               <br>Two-way file format conversion library and responsive
> > design editor</h3>
> > -               <p>with editing functionality on web, mobile platforms
> and
> > desktops for people who work with multiple document formats, or just
> need a
> > simple editor with full document support.</p>
> > -               <h3>Want to join</h3>
> > -               <p>We have work to do and welcome developers, testers and
> > documenters to join our community. Initial tasks are
> > -       to clean up granted code to make it easy to add filters (format
> > converters), complete the ODF filter, work on editor
> > -               and write tests and compliance sheets for supported file
> > formats.</p>
> > -               <p>We are very openminded, new ideas are welcome. The
> > known desktop editors all have years of history in the code, we have
> > started on a fresh, allowing experiments and thinking out of the box. If
> > you have opinions you will feel welcome in our little community.</p>
> > -
> > -               <div class="row">
> > -               <div class="large-6 medium-6 columns">
> > -               <h3>Where to find us:</h3>
> > -               <ul>
> > -                       <li><a href="
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> > -                       <li><a href="
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-corinthia">Github</a></li>
> > -                       <li><a href="mailto:
> > dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>">Send mail to Dev@
> > </a></li>
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> > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org">Dev@
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> > -                       <li><a href="
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COR">Issues</a></li>
> > -                       <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia">Wiki</a></li>
> > -                       <li><a href="http://www.apache.org
> > ">Apache.org</a></li>
> > -               </ul>
> > -           </div>
> > -               <div class="large-6 medium-6 columns">
> > -           <a class="twitter-timeline" data-dnt="true" href="
> > https://twitter.com/ApacheCorinthia"
> > -               data-widget-id="545906451257245696">Tweets by
> > @ApacheCorinthia</a><script>!function(d,s,id){var
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> >
> ";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs");</script>
> > -               </div>
> > -               </div>
> > +      <div class="panel">
> > +      <img src="img/webbanner.jpg" width="1800" height="790" alt=""
> > title="" />
> > +        <h3>
> > +        <br>Two-way file format conversion library and responsive design
> > editor</h3>
> > +        <p>with editing functionality on web, mobile platforms and
> > desktops for people who work with multiple document formats, or just
> need a
> > simple editor with full document support.</p>
> > +        <h3>Want to join</h3>
> > +        <p>We have work to do and welcome developers, testers and
> > documenters to join our community. Initial tasks are
> > +        to clean up granted code to make it easy to add filters (format
> > converters), complete the ODF filter, work on editor
> > +        and write tests and compliance sheets for supported file
> > formats.</p>
> > +        <p>We are very openminded, new ideas are welcome. The known
> > desktop editors all have years of history in the code, we have started
> on a
> > fresh, allowing experiments and thinking out of the box. If you have
> > opinions you will feel welcome in our little community.</p>
> > +
> > +        <div class="row">
> > +        <div class="large-6 medium-6 columns">
> > +        <h3>Where to find us:</h3>
> > +        <ul>
> > +            <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/CorinthiaProject
> ">Facebook
> > page</a></li>
> > +            <li><a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-corinthia
> > ">Github</a></li>
> > +            <li><a href="mailto:dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
> > <javascript:;>">Send mail to Dev@</a></li>
> > +            <li><a href="
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org">Dev@
> mail
> > list archive</a></li>
> > +            <li><a href="https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COR
> > ">Issues</a></li>
> > +            <li><a href="
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Corinthia">Wiki</a></li>
> > +            <li><a href="http://www.apache.org">Apache.org</a></li>
> > +        </ul>
> > +        </div>
> > +        <div class="large-6 medium-6 columns">
> > +        <a class="twitter-timeline" data-dnt="true" href="
> > https://twitter.com/ApacheCorinthia"
> > +        data-widget-id="545906451257245696">Tweets by
> > @ApacheCorinthia</a><script>!function(d,s,id){var
> >
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> > js.id=id;js.src=p+"://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js
> >
> ";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs");</script>
> > +        </div>
> > +        </div>
> > +      </div>
> > +    </div>
> > +    <!-- footer section -->
> > +    <div class="row">
> > +      <div class="large-3 medium-3 columns"><a href="
> > http://incubator.apache.org"><img src="img/incubatorlogo.png"
> width="229"
> > height="57" alt=""
> > +      title="apache incubator logo" /></a></div>
> > +      <div class="large-9 medium-9 columns"><p style="line-height:
> > 66%"><small>Apache Corinthia is an effort undergoing incubation at The
> > Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored
> > +            by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is required of all newly
> > accepted projects until a further review indicates
> > +            that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making
> > process have stabilized in a manner consistent with
> > +            other successful ASF projects. While incubation status is
> not
> > necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
> > +            stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has
> > yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.
> > +            Apache Corinthia is distributed under the Apache License
> > v2.0.</small></p>
> >        </div>
> > -    </div>
> > -       <!-- footer section -->
> > -    <div class="row">
> > -         <div class="large-3 medium-3 columns"><a href="
> > http://incubator.apache.org"><img src="img/incubatorlogo.png"
> width="229"
> > height="57" alt=""
> > -         title="apache incubator logo" /></a></div>
> > -         <div class="large-9 medium-9 columns"><p><small>Apache
> Corinthia
> > is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software Foundation
> (ASF),
> > sponsored
> > -                       by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is required
> of
> > all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
> > -                       that the infrastructure, communications, and
> > decision making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with
> > -                       other successful ASF projects. While incubation
> > status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
> > -                       stability of the code, it does indicate that the
> > project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.
> > -                       Apache Corinthia is distributed under the Apache
> > License v2.0.</small></p>
> > -         </div>
> > -       </div>
> > -
> > +    </div>
> > +
> >      <script src="js/vendor/jquery.js"></script>
> >      <script src="js/foundation.min.js"></script>
> >      <script>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
>
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