Mailing-List: contact dev-help@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <006901d02517$5305a9e0$f910fda0$@acm.org>
References: 
 <CAK2iWdRqb9SqPh9_nqCrMzBFse7H8nuuW+vPJKoGP=fm7GHRMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9BC75B16-1A78-418B-8E82-03B8F16D8ECE@apache.org>
	<011401d0248e$5b25bc20$11713460$@acm.org>
	<000a01d024a9$b14a1680$13de4380$@acm.org>
	<002201d024b3$a1efd620$e5cf8260$@acm.org>
	<FAB4D342-456E-4FED-9685-95879A6B530A@apache.org>
	<CAK2iWdSnukB37XYzvETe+bjY38noA4VM43EYPAgojeSYAumfwg@mail.gmail.com>
	<006901d02517$5305a9e0$f910fda0$@acm.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:21:32 +0100
Message-ID: 
 <CAK2iWdSRAr-C0wstq=g_aiDw+qO6COVA8wBGNYf4HG=rgRs5jw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anybody who know how to write .cmd or .bat files for windows ?
From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
To: "dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org" <dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org>,
	Dennis Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158b7e4c0bf54050b8656ad

--089e0158b7e4c0bf54050b8656ad
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 31 December 2014 at 17:32, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
wrote:

> -1 on using a prepackaged combination of the dependencies.
>
> It is only simpler locally, not globally.
>
> That is just moving the pea, and it means there is now an external
> activity that committers must understand and someone has to maintain when
> there are updates, security patches, etc., to the dependencies.  It also
> raises provenance issues.  (I note that none of the sources have hashes or
> signatures already, or else I missed them, and they include a variety of
> .exe files.)
>
> If we are concerned about obsolescence or inaccessibility of the sources,
> there might need to be a backup arrangement.  That might be a better use of
> Apache Extras.
>

May I say in a positive tone, I really hope to meet you in person at ACNA.
You have a way of expressing the small undefinable worries in my stomach.

A -1 with a good reason, calls for a discussion !!! so let me try to break
this down into a couple of questions:
(feel free to flame me, it I got it wrong).

Assumption: we want windows developer to have an easy start with corinthia,
and we dont want people to install things like cygwin.

Questions:
- Dennis already made a .bat to download the original source (which I
clearly prefer), can we make the extraction as a .bat also (from what I
understand it is doable, but need to be adjusted if we upgrade) ?
- What is the back side of having to simple .bat scripts ?
- Products like Cygwin, have scared AOO developers, so I dont want we
depend on such products, do we agree on this ?
  (Windows developers in general only like visual studio, and maybe a
couple of external libs)
- Is this a temporary situation or will we always need external libraries ?
- Peter made a suggestion, can we somehow learn from that, if we cannot
make a .bat for extraction.

rgds
jan i

>
>  - Dennis
>
>  -- above in reply to --
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 23:17
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Anybody who know how to write .cmd or .bat files for windows ?
>
> On Wednesday, December 31, 2014, Peter Kelly <pmkelly@apache.org> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
> > I propose a simpler solution ;)
> >
> >
> >
> http://downloads.uxproductivity.com/corinthia/corinthia-externals-20141231.zip
>
>
> @dennis thanks fir all your investigation work.
> +1 to having the prepared files at uxproductivity (and later apache extras)
> and then use the script from dennis to fetch is.
>
> [ ... ]
>
>

--089e0158b7e4c0bf54050b8656ad--