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From Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Date Thu, 27 Jul 2017 20:58:32 GMT
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-13126

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com> wrote:
> File it!
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Filip Maj <maj.fil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is that concensus? Time to file an issue? I love :knife:'ing code
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Tommy Williams <tommy@devgeeks.org>
>> wrote:
>> > +1 to drop it
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Simon MacDonald <
>> simon.macdonald@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 to drop it.
>> >>
>> >> Simon Mac Donald
>> >> http://simonmacdonald.com
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > +1 drop it altogether.
>> >> > We can't be the arbiter of what's good or bad, and of course we don't
>> >> have
>> >> > the time nor desire to do so IMO.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > +1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was
>> >> proposed
>> >> > > for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > +1 to dropping it from cordova
>> >> > > > Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and
>> >> > ionic-showcase
>> >> > > > pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine
and let
>> >> the
>> >> > > > downstreams do the marketing.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > @purplecabbage
>> >> > > > risingj.com
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
>> >> > > > jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source
apps. I
>> think
>> >> > users
>> >> > > > can
>> >> > > > > benefit of it.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com>
>> >> > escribió:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section.  Downstream
>> projects
>> >> > get
>> >> > > > > more
>> >> > > > > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <
>> maj.fil@gmail.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs
are already
>> >> sinking
>> >> > > > under
>> >> > > > > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just
with maintaining
>> the
>> >> > > > > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I think it would be better to turf it and
let downstream
>> >> projects
>> >> > > do
>> >> > > > > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap
has one, so does
>> >> ionic.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts
<
>> >> > > kerrishotts@gmail.com
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section
on the website, it
>> >> would
>> >> > > be
>> >> > > > > good
>> >> > > > > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope
app goes
>> to a
>> >> > 404
>> >> > > > > page.
>> >> > > > > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is
not available in
>> the
>> >> > US
>> >> > > > > > region,
>> >> > > > > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better
to link to a
>> >> website
>> >> > > > > > instead).
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Personally, it might be better just to
drop the section
>> >> > entirely,
>> >> > > > > since
>> >> > > > > > > it will require maintenance, would end up
with some
>> subjective
>> >> > > > criteria
>> >> > > > > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and
would need to be
>> >> rotated
>> >> > > as
>> >> > > > > new
>> >> > > > > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps
on the front
>> >> page.
>> >> > I
>> >> > > > like
>> >> > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have
a Cordova App
>> >> gallery
>> >> > > > (akin
>> >> > > > > to
>> >> > > > > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that
could easily be
>> done
>> >> by
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > > > > > community, since we’re tight on resources
as it is.
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept
apps, we need some
>> >> > > (reasonable)
>> >> > > > > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso
that we
>> won’t
>> >> > > > > necessarily
>> >> > > > > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want
to end up
>> featuring
>> >> > > 1000
>> >> > > > > apps
>> >> > > > > > > on the front page).
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Some starting criteria:
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download
on the
>> >> > > > appropriate
>> >> > > > > > app
>> >> > > > > > > stores.
>> >> > > > > > > > * The product needs to have a website
where we can link
>> >> > > > (redirecting
>> >> > > > > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
>> >> > > > > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s
CoC, since it’s
>> being
>> >> > > > > featured
>> >> > > > > > > on the front page.
>> >> > > > > > > > * The app itself should:
>> >> > > > > > > >     * be visually appealing and well
designed (this is
>> >> > > subjective,
>> >> > > > > but
>> >> > > > > > > no getting around that…)
>> >> > > > > > > >     * actually work (this would require
someone
>> downloading &
>> >> > > > testing
>> >> > > > > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review
copy for free.)
>> >> > > > > > > >     * be performant (no jank, quick response
to user
>> input,
>> >> > etc.)
>> >> > > > > > > >     * be in production (not just a demo
app)
>> >> > > > > > > >     * be more than just wrapping a remote
website
>> >> > > > > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
>> >> > > > > > > >     * Available source code (so others
can learn from the
>> >> app)
>> >> > > > > > > >     * Multiple platform support
>> >> > > > > > > >     * Free or usable trial version so
that users can get a
>> >> good
>> >> > > > feel
>> >> > > > > > for
>> >> > > > > > > a performant Cordova app
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Those are just off the top of my head,
so take them as you
>> >> > will.
>> >> > > > :-)
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > ~ Kerri
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron
<shazron@apache.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
>> >> > > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How
do we select?
>> >> > > > > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates
to the Xmind
>> request to
>> >> > > dev@
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
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