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From Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Android] Let's drop support for Jellybean
Date Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:22:44 GMT
+1 makes sense to me. Ensuring testability and not making heroic measures
to continue support an old OS is a good reason to me.

TrevorBrindle
Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer
SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica
C: (407) 450-8700

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:38 AM, julio cesar sanchez <
> jcesarmobile@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Currently, Jellybean is 8.8%, so it's bellow the 10%. We can drop it.
> >
> >
> > 2017-06-12 17:22 GMT+02:00 Filip Maj <maj.fil@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Reviving this thread! Sorry for the late reply.
> > >
> > > Regarding Trevor's question:
> > > > Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping
> > > > official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop
> after
> > > > this?
> > >
> > > From a testing/CI perspective, it becomes much more tenable to keep up
> > > with pull requests and ensure changes are validated on the platforms
> > > we support. We currently leverage Sauce Labs to run tests on emulators
> > > on Android, and Sauce dropped support for all Android versions up to
> > > and including 4.3 [1]. So, from a selfish perspective, as a cordova
> > > dev, dropping 4.3 and below support makes _my_ life easier as I don't
> > > have to manually test on earlier versions of Android.
> > >
> > > Not sure if there are other, less-selfish reasons? Ping Simon + Joe.
> > >
> > > Also, instead of letting this thread die a quiet death, may I suggest
> > > that whatever decision is made here, we file as issues and chalk up
> > > for the next cordova-android major release?
> > >
> > > [1] https://wiki.saucelabs.com/display/DOCS/2017/03/30/EOL+
> > > for+Android+4.0%2C+4.1%2C+4.2%2C+and+4.3+Automated+Mobile+App+Testing
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Trevor Brindle <tabrindle@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I don't think it is unreasonable to drop support for an OS that had
> its
> > > > first release in July of 2012 (4.1 is almost 5 years old), especially
> > > > considering the Cordova support policy for iOS.
> > > >
> > > > Realistically, I think it's hard to justify support for before 4.4.
> > Less
> > > > than 10% of our customers are on 4.4 or earlier as a whole, and less
> > than
> > > > 10% of them actually use our apps regularly.
> > > >
> > > > Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping
> > > > official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop
> after
> > > > this?
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM Simon MacDonald <
> > > simon.macdonald@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would happily drop support for anything less than API level 19 in
> the
> > > > next cordova-android major release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Simon Mac Donald
> > > > http://simonmacdonald.com
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Filip Maj <maj.fil@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> As much as I personally would like to do so, I wonder what the
> > > >> reaction among consumers of cordova would be.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > +1
> > > >> > Our CI tests only test as far back as 4.4, so maybe I thought
we
> > were
> > > >> > already there.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > @purplecabbage
> > > >> > risingj.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hey
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Even though everything appears to be working on Jellybean,
I
> know a
> > > lot
> > > >> of
> > > >> >> people have been wanting to throw it to the wayside.  Normally,
> for
> > > us
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> drop support for a platform, we have to wait unitl it goes
below
> > 10%,
> > > >> but
> > > >> >> since Jellybean consists of three different API versions,
and
> since
> > > two
> > > >> of
> > > >> >> those are below the 5% mark, I'm tempted to just toss it
by the
> > > wayside
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> set the minimum supported version of Android to 4.4.x, or
API
> level
> > > 19.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> How do people feel about that.  I know in the past, people
were
> > super
> > > >> >> passionate about supporting everything, but given that my
Android
> > 4.1
> > > >> >> device is an old Nitobi device obtained before we even became
> > Adobe,
> > > >> and it
> > > >> >> took five tries to get it to cooperate with adb, I'm really
> > starting
> > > to
> > > >> >> think it's time we dropped Jellybean.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thoughts?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Joe
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > TrevorBrindle
> > > > Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer
> > > > SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica
> > > > C: (407) 450-8700
> > >
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