Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A3E200B81 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:45:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id E42E7160AD2; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 36C12160AAA for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:45:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 79120 invoked by uid 500); 13 Sep 2016 17:44:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 79108 invoked by uid 99); 13 Sep 2016 17:44:59 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:44:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 9BB8DC65BD for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:44:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.576 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.576 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=2.397, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx2-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q1GDuXCJmgNL for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-f45.google.com (mail-it0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by mx2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 4B4E75FB19 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 15so132847ita.1 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:44:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FeOfv12XgPbxBOys/yQCOEEukh/5X7f+dM9mFuIpT24=; b=pURVNZyxAOvYwa/Ps1XPjE14a8I5miwTtDT12WWN+cyJrMK9ICu/PrU9tllWQAMal5 gqrFyB9F9iIF+jMMVPWw/3TknpJxvp9qUzGhFbNoSQA8U2GKnFMk512XuxFwQSOGg9zm eh/ZHbMXxO/C76uBUSTNEdFcxLaccJMV6YT/SkhbNzA20JzDO4KdauNfBM1NGUxBQmur 1rpgRX2NB0oXRw0TvtaaAImQQEb1zjIhrfZ6Jv2Qw4UagFOu0lVlFZwsYWxWj7VGIujr KjocwDRsRASoqNTRCg3nB+XndQPrHPGBgaBscHBUnNFe2XDYKYCQFYBjl2v8ZSoqVDh1 XaQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=FeOfv12XgPbxBOys/yQCOEEukh/5X7f+dM9mFuIpT24=; b=CgSUaKwMqcLK96nP85wEajsStO4rBIPUZ9vV9s1zN1rEaT9ooK3qf+mI+cknAfIw9b tNAniElIiLVIe6fpR/QfbmBQc0lWARalZ50pSHGi7SHyrNdssAVKtXXsKPmw7DzXrER0 IWUGlJPlmUP9/HqX8mR3AlWCqmSGWogwGRmWgp9sPVnjw/eicLeFMXLVAlbgzRbDIxW/ OaB97dC+Zz+LuxlsblC3pXa47S5r7USpr6ziJ6HqUcyF2Uf7M2p+9RdsekFpIKtnBbP6 bSIfctH/UkEJxbPaqJvWT+5kmtOorFLw+PlRkURnlflyvjI/D+ZkqnXaE1qKW3yeqBxQ TThw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwN3HtJ9QZDyYpaqrHUo1T7Olzj+0fWdOucWhN5t0767fuigp0966bU61dVATcP9rmWqdRyvQzREma0InA== X-Received: by 10.107.133.145 with SMTP id p17mr3614498ioi.164.1473788512350; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.150.10 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:41:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jesse Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:41:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Not requiring an iCLA for contributions To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fc33ec0bb73053c672067 archived-at: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:45:06 -0000 --001a113fc33ec0bb73053c672067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You decide per pr if you think it is trivial. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Joe Bowser wrote: > I'll agree to this, since I don't know what the definition of trivial is > w.r.t. Apache. > > +1 > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Jesse wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > risingj.com > > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Shazron wrote: > > > > > Bump. There can't be lazy consensus on this. Before I potentially waste > > > time on drafting a proposal, trying to feel the temperature on this > > change. > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Shazron wrote: > > > > > > > It's up to us to decide, and right now we require the iCLA except for > > > > trivial contributions. > > > > > > > > I want to change this to a more relaxed requirement: > > > > 1. Non-committers do not require an iCLA (you need one anyway to get > an > > > > account, so that's really a non-issue) > > > > 2. Require a clear intent by the author to contribute under our > normal > > > > terms, for a non-trivial change > > > > > > > > So some of you will be wondering, what does Apache say about this? > > > > From: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-infrastru > > > > cture-dev/201112.mbox/%3CA603FFCE-623B-43E9-87F8- > 39BAA51C72D1@gbiv.com > > > %3E > > > > > > > > Roy Fielding: > > > > "Yes, that opinion comes from me speaking as a board member and > > > > author of the Apache License, and has previously been cleared > > > > with Apache's legal team for a long ago discussion with Incubator. > > > > We don't need a CLA on file to accept contributions from > > non-committers. > > > > We just need a clear intent by the author to contribute under > > > > our normal terms." > > > > > > > > Other opinions: http://apetro.ghost.io/apache-contributors-no-cla/ > > > > > > > > We need to change our Contribute page: > > > > http://cordova.apache.org/contribute/ > > > > > > > > ... as well as any PR templates: > > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-media/blob/master/. > > > > github/PULL_REQUEST_TEMPLATE.md > > > > > > > > This declaration of intent, if posted on Github, will be reflected on > > > > dev@cordova.apache.org since Apache sends out an email on each PR or > > > > comment to a PR, so we will be able to track it in our archives. > > > > > > > > As usual it is always the committer's responsibility to make sure > that > > > all > > > > code they push to a repository is compliant with ASF policies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --001a113fc33ec0bb73053c672067--