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From Joe Bowser <>
Subject Re: Users mailing list
Date Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:41:21 GMT
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Joe Bowser <> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
>> wrote:
>> I’m hearing two purposes of a user list:
>> - Key announcements
>> - Self-help for users
>> I’m not totally convinced that slack + stack overflow are not sufficient
>> for finding resources & common answers for cordova issues. Creating another
>> channel will just fragment the community.
> I would love to suggest Stack Overflow only because social voting tends to
> elect the most correct answer.  I personally hate mailing lists for trying
> to figure out how to use something because the answer gets buried way too
> deep. I think that the main reason I would like to see a user list is
> because

because we get flooded with users on the dev list.  I should have finished
this thought before skipping to the next one.

>> FWIW, our blog got about 50K pageviews for all blog entries (and blog
>> listing) in the last month or so. That’s very low compared to over a
>> million hits on our docs. I agree that we need to find better ways to reach
>> out to users with key announcements. Perhaps the blog needs to be improved
>> – write more engaging content, find opportunities for guest posts (cross
>> posting – Raymond?), have an option to subscribe for notifications to it.
>> We’ve added disqus to our blogs already – but we need to probably route the
>> disqus comments to the “dev” list or slack to ensure enough people get to
>> see it and we respond to those comments.
> Do we know which part of our docs are getting the most hits?  I honestly
> don't think that generic announcements are the best way to reach out to
> users, but that would mean that we change how we use the blog, and that we
> decide on what content we should post to it.  Right now, I'm pretty happy
> with it just being announcements.
> On a related note, we might want to consider a user list for plugin
>> developers. In particular, we need to have conversations and discussions
>> about breaking changes, design discussions etc. with this highly important,
>> smaller target audience. There is no targeted forum for these developers
>> currently.
> That should be happening on this list, but this list gets flooded with
> people looking for answers for their Cordova problems instead, which may be
> why we need a users list, since we're already kinda fractured. :/
> -Nikhil
>> On 4/29/16, 9:31 AM, " on behalf of Kerri Shotts" <
>> on behalf of> wrote:
>> >Thought I'd throw in my 2¢ worth:
>> >
>> >- If a user list is created, I'll gladly participate.
>> >
>> >- Having a Cordova-branded user list could be useful from a "branding"
>> >perspective. The Adobe Forums are "PhoneGap" branded, and the Google
>> Group
>> >is named "phonegap" (although the welcome text makes clear that it is for
>> >both environments). Personally, I don't have a problem with the
>> difference
>> >in branding, but for newcomers, I'm sure it raises a few questions ("why
>> am
>> >I going to a phonegap group for a cordova question?").
>> >
>> >- As for the blog, as much as I like that the announcements show up
>> there,
>> >not everyone is into feed readers (for whatever reason. I'm not one of of
>> >them -- I'm a feedly addict). For those who prefer email subscriptions, a
>> >user list for announcements would be handy.
>> >
>> >- Google Group is still going, but activity is falling off as people
>> >discover the Adobe Forums. The group may need to become r/o at some point
>> >in the future, especially if use declines to next-to-nothing.
>> >
>> >- Getting people to read is always the catch -- they just don't.
>> Sometimes
>> >I'm guilty of the same. Human nature, I suspect!
>> >
>> >​~ Kerri​
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 9:26 AM, julio cesar sanchez <
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> ​...
>> >>

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