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From Dmitry Blotsky <dblot...@microsoft.com>
Subject Re: Inclusion of Evothings Studio on https://cordova.apache.org/
Date Tue, 12 Apr 2016 06:06:49 GMT
I’ve merged the PR. The change will go live the next time anyone does a website deployment.

Kindly,
Dmitry

> On Apr 11, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Layout wise, it could get ugly (thus the randomizer). IMO we can accept the
> PR, I don't think there is even a task in JIRA (nor consensus) that we
> should even do the randomizer (at least until it becomes a problem).
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:44 AM, julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmobile@gmail.com
>> wrote:
> 
>> So should we accept the PR now? or wait until we have the tool randomizing
>> ready?
>> 
>> 2016-03-31 23:00 GMT+02:00 Ryan J. Salva <rsalva@microsoft.com>:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Sent via 📱
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:52 PM -0700, "Parashuram N" <
>>> panarasi@microsoft.com<mailto:panarasi@microsoft.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 – let us add the tool
>>> 
>>> On 3/31/16, 4:20 AM, "Carlos Santana" <csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I checked the website and I think it's a good tool to add, Cordova Devs
>>>> will be happy to learn and start playing with IoT
>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:33 PM Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't have opposition to it being in Tools if there is consensus.
>>>>> For randomization, right now it's all static and that's easy, but now
>>>>> we have to introduce *JavaScript* into the mix :^O
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com
>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks Mikael for the information. Others on the list, with this
>>>>> information, do we think that we should include this in our listing.
>>> While
>>>>> I do understand that we have a max limit and would not want the home
>>> page
>>>>> to be a place where we list a million tools, an option could be to
>>> separate
>>>>> tools from frameworks, and list tools as they come in. My guess is
>> that
>>>>> there are not many tools. If there are, could we look at randomizing
>> the
>>>>> tools and displaying only enough so as to not mess up the asthetics of
>>> the
>>>>> page ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/30/16, 1:51 AM, "Mikael Kindborg" <mikael.kindborg@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Evothings is a tool that speeds up the development of Cordova
apps,
>>> and
>>>>>>> provides plugins and libraries for IoT-functionality, notably
>>> Bluetooth
>>>>> Low
>>>>>>> Energy (BLE).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Evothings Workbench is a tool you run on your computer. Code
files
>>> can be
>>>>>>> edited in any editor and when a file is updated the current app
is
>>>>> reloaded
>>>>>>> on connected mobile devices. There are also debugging tools for
>>>>> evaluating
>>>>>>> code and logging data from connected phones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Evothings Viewer is a Cordova app that connects to the Workbench.
It
>>> it
>>>>>>> used to run and live-reload apps. The Viewer comes preconfigured
>> with
>>> a
>>>>>>> bunch of Cordova plugins (e.g. BLE). You can also build your
custom
>>>>> Viewer
>>>>>>> and add your own plugins. The Viewer and related plugins are
all
>> open
>>>>>>> source.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is also support for connecting to the Workbench from any
web
>>>>> browser
>>>>>>> or web view, that is, any Cordova app. You don't have to use
the
>>> Viewer.
>>>>>>> The documentation for how to do this is currently being updated.
>>>>> Basically
>>>>>>> you just connect using this URL:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdeploy.evothings.com%2fconnect%2fCONNECT_KEY&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=iglzYysd7Eykhicg1TrwPdzTG3oRXmkeU2iEkjUoNOM%3d
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CONNECT_KEY is an 8 character code you get in the Workbench.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is the documentation page specifically related to Cordova:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fevothings.com%2fdoc%2fstarter-guides%2fcordova-starter-guide.html&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=u02xtdYUQU41nyiVOaJAF85GHlJEYPTBUpfMp9wCnIA%3d
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The file structure for an Evothings app is fully compatible with
>>> Cordova.
>>>>>>> You can also take any Cordova app basically, and drag it into
>>> Evothings
>>>>>>> Workbench and use live reload and debugging tools.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To deploy an app built using Evothings Studio, you just build
it
>> with
>>>>>>> Cordova, using the Cordova CLI. To help people building their
native
>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>> we have documented how to install and use Cordova on the Evothings
>>>>>>> documentation web site.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hope this summary helps!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is a good idea to clarify how Cordova is used in Evothings
Studio
>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pull request, will do this if the pull request is accepted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any feedback you have on Evothings Studio is most welcome!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards, Mikael
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PS. Just to be clear, I work at Evothings and designed and
>> implemented
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> live reload system used in Evothings Studio along with many parts
of
>>> the
>>>>>>> Workbench and the Viewer app.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30 March 2016 at 00:09, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> While the discussion on including additional tools is still
>>> happening
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the mailing list, I had a quick question about the Evothings
>>> Studio. I
>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> looking at the website and it was not clear if the tool is
based
>> on
>>>>>>>> Cordova/Phonegap.
>>>>>>>> Is Evothiongs based on Cordova and are the device APIs based
on
>>> Apache
>>>>>>>> Cordova ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The purpose of the tooling showcase is to show off the various
>>> Cordova
>>>>>>>> development tools, and it would be helpful if you could also
tell
>> us
>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> Cordova is used. Maybe we should add that as a part of the
>>> description
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the pull request ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Mikael Kindborg [mailto:mikael.kindborg@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:15 AM
>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Inclusion of Evothings Studio on
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2f&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=OLx8gOBhELyfi1ukS%2bjjtEBGiRS9rp1gu2pVU9f1dUs%3d
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone on the Cordova Project,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We got reject for our pull request to include Evothings Studio
in
>>> the
>>>>>>>> listing of Cordova Tools on
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2f&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7cf83708e8019a4c60331a08d354d2e319%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=aXHnr%2bw7ivaSmJyaN8yLTa9LsDZASBhw1WU8M416qz8%3d
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> See this comment in the pull request:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/410#issuecomment-198858128
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note that Evothings Studio is not a Cordova Showcase App,
but a
>> tool
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> developing apps for Apache Cordova.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you also rejecting new tools? Evothings Studio is a very
>> useful
>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>> for Cordova developers, in particular for development of
IoT apps.
>>> It
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> 100% Cordova compatible, no lock-in or dependencies, an Evothings
>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> is fully compatible with Cordova.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think the Cordova developer community would appreciate
this
>> tool.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mikael Kindborg
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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