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From Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Inclusion of Evothings Studio on https://cordova.apache.org/
Date Tue, 12 Apr 2016 10:08:39 GMT
I agree, it can be randomize when it becomes a problem or before if someone has some bandwidth


- Carlos
@csantanapr

> On Apr 12, 2016, at 2:06 AM, Dmitry Blotsky <dblotsky@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ve merged the PR. The change will go live the next time anyone does a website
deployment.
> 
> Kindly,
> Dmitry
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Layout wise, it could get ugly (thus the randomizer). IMO we can accept the
>> PR, I don't think there is even a task in JIRA (nor consensus) that we
>> should even do the randomizer (at least until it becomes a problem).
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:44 AM, julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmobile@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> So should we accept the PR now? or wait until we have the tool randomizing
>>> ready?
>>> 
>>> 2016-03-31 23:00 GMT+02:00 Ryan J. Salva <rsalva@microsoft.com>:
>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> Sent via 📱
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:52 PM -0700, "Parashuram N" <
>>>> panarasi@microsoft.com<mailto:panarasi@microsoft.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> +1 – let us add the tool
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/31/16, 4:20 AM, "Carlos Santana" <csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I checked the website and I think it's a good tool to add, Cordova Devs
>>>>> will be happy to learn and start playing with IoT
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:33 PM Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have opposition to it being in Tools if there is consensus.
>>>>>> For randomization, right now it's all static and that's easy, but
now
>>>>>> we have to introduce *JavaScript* into the mix :^O
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com
>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks Mikael for the information. Others on the list, with this
>>>>>> information, do we think that we should include this in our listing.
>>>> While
>>>>>> I do understand that we have a max limit and would not want the home
>>>> page
>>>>>> to be a place where we list a million tools, an option could be to
>>>> separate
>>>>>> tools from frameworks, and list tools as they come in. My guess is
>>> that
>>>>>> there are not many tools. If there are, could we look at randomizing
>>> the
>>>>>> tools and displaying only enough so as to not mess up the asthetics
of
>>>> the
>>>>>> page ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3/30/16, 1:51 AM, "Mikael Kindborg" <mikael.kindborg@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Evothings is a tool that speeds up the development of Cordova
apps,
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> provides plugins and libraries for IoT-functionality, notably
>>>> Bluetooth
>>>>>> Low
>>>>>>>> Energy (BLE).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Evothings Workbench is a tool you run on your computer. Code
files
>>>> can be
>>>>>>>> edited in any editor and when a file is updated the current
app is
>>>>>> reloaded
>>>>>>>> on connected mobile devices. There are also debugging tools
for
>>>>>> evaluating
>>>>>>>> code and logging data from connected phones.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Evothings Viewer is a Cordova app that connects to the Workbench.
It
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> used to run and live-reload apps. The Viewer comes preconfigured
>>> with
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> bunch of Cordova plugins (e.g. BLE). You can also build your
custom
>>>>>> Viewer
>>>>>>>> and add your own plugins. The Viewer and related plugins
are all
>>> open
>>>>>>>> source.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is also support for connecting to the Workbench from
any web
>>>>>> browser
>>>>>>>> or web view, that is, any Cordova app. You don't have to
use the
>>>> Viewer.
>>>>>>>> The documentation for how to do this is currently being updated.
>>>>>> Basically
>>>>>>>> you just connect using this URL:
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdeploy.evothings.com%2fconnect%2fCONNECT_KEY&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=iglzYysd7Eykhicg1TrwPdzTG3oRXmkeU2iEkjUoNOM%3d
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> CONNECT_KEY is an 8 character code you get in the Workbench.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here is the documentation page specifically related to Cordova:
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fevothings.com%2fdoc%2fstarter-guides%2fcordova-starter-guide.html&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=u02xtdYUQU41nyiVOaJAF85GHlJEYPTBUpfMp9wCnIA%3d
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The file structure for an Evothings app is fully compatible
with
>>>> Cordova.
>>>>>>>> You can also take any Cordova app basically, and drag it
into
>>>> Evothings
>>>>>>>> Workbench and use live reload and debugging tools.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To deploy an app built using Evothings Studio, you just build
it
>>> with
>>>>>>>> Cordova, using the Cordova CLI. To help people building their
native
>>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>>> we have documented how to install and use Cordova on the
Evothings
>>>>>>>> documentation web site.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hope this summary helps!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is a good idea to clarify how Cordova is used in Evothings
Studio
>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> pull request, will do this if the pull request is accepted.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any feedback you have on Evothings Studio is most welcome!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mikael
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PS. Just to be clear, I work at Evothings and designed and
>>> implemented
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> live reload system used in Evothings Studio along with many
parts of
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Workbench and the Viewer app.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 30 March 2016 at 00:09, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> While the discussion on including additional tools is
still
>>>> happening
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the mailing list, I had a quick question about the Evothings
>>>> Studio. I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> looking at the website and it was not clear if the tool
is based
>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Cordova/Phonegap.
>>>>>>>>> Is Evothiongs based on Cordova and are the device APIs
based on
>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> Cordova ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The purpose of the tooling showcase is to show off the
various
>>>> Cordova
>>>>>>>>> development tools, and it would be helpful if you could
also tell
>>> us
>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> Cordova is used. Maybe we should add that as a part of
the
>>>> description
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the pull request ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Mikael Kindborg [mailto:mikael.kindborg@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:15 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Inclusion of Evothings Studio on
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2f&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=OLx8gOBhELyfi1ukS%2bjjtEBGiRS9rp1gu2pVU9f1dUs%3d
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone on the Cordova Project,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We got reject for our pull request to include Evothings
Studio in
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> listing of Cordova Tools on
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2f&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7cf83708e8019a4c60331a08d354d2e319%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=aXHnr%2bw7ivaSmJyaN8yLTa9LsDZASBhw1WU8M416qz8%3d
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> See this comment in the pull request:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/410#issuecomment-198858128
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Note that Evothings Studio is not a Cordova Showcase
App, but a
>>> tool
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> developing apps for Apache Cordova.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are you also rejecting new tools? Evothings Studio is
a very
>>> useful
>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>>> for Cordova developers, in particular for development
of IoT apps.
>>>> It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> 100% Cordova compatible, no lock-in or dependencies,
an Evothings
>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>> is fully compatible with Cordova.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think the Cordova developer community would appreciate
this
>>> tool.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mikael Kindborg
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