Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: 
 <CAOBL_k5E4SO=9D6XAX8eaH7kOzemWJOkmh8G=yCAspPSVZUMKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CAOBL_k4fiYM3-DGWyb9i5Y1UyAGEGA_ZHPGQ=eacqLDFC=tZDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE6O_-aRkWQKtL45bLS_18C_BjvGK8Z3Pckgft6J+GV54ehCYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLUPR03MB134CBFDDA2FCA0726852BCCC3B20@BLUPR03MB134.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAOBL_k5E4SO=9D6XAX8eaH7kOzemWJOkmh8G=yCAspPSVZUMKw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 22:11:35 -0800
Message-ID: 
 <CAOBL_k4pxesqwOwwYM54_-bCvfLh2BSOXk--EWmohFXxuH6pjw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Can we please kill the Battery Plugin on Android
From: Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141636e21c612052d8374c5

--001a1141636e21c612052d8374c5
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Actually, we already document this as clear as possible in the README.md
for the plugin.  I think this is a very serious understatement.

https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-battery-status


On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <nikhilkh@microsoft.com
> > wrote:
>
>> What's our deprecation policy? Should we log a deprecation message before
>> remove this support. What alternatives do Cordova developers have - are
>> there other plugins which provide the equivalent functionality - perhaps
>> with a better API - as opposed to polling events every 1% battery drop.
>>
>
> Our regular deprecation policy is six months, but I think we should bypass
> that because our Battery Plugin on Android is harmful and will kill the
> battery in two hours if left running.
>
> Chrome 38 has support for the W3C Battery API, but there's still not an
> option for people stuck on 4.4 or below other than to use Crosswalk.  The
> thing is that a size penalty is still better than a battery that actually
> drains the battery of the phone.
>
> You could do a scaled-down API where it only sends an event when the
> battery is at 15% and has no meta information, but it wouldn't be
> compatible with the W3C and I remember criticizing the W3C spec as being
> unable to be implemented in Cordova by itself, since the Android SDK
> requires us to subscribe to an event manually that is never meant to be
> subscribed to.  AFAIK, the community hasn't created a third party battery
> plugin that works.  I don't want us to keep distributing a plugin that is
> so completely broken that it's harmful for users.  I don't care how many
> developers use it, since they're obviously not testing their applications.
>
>
>
>>
>> -Nikhil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shazron [mailto:shazron@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 5:27 PM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Can we please kill the Battery Plugin on Android
>>
>> +1
>> If no one has concerns by the end of the week, I'd say we would have lazy
>> consensus and you can delete the Android part of the plugin (maybe prep the
>> PR now)
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey
>> >
>> > Once again, I ran into someone using the Battery Plugin that actively
>> > kills the Battery on Android, and can we please discourage people from
>> > using this very broken plugin that we have no ability or intention of
>> fixing?
>> >
>> > The reason I don't want to fix it because the browser already supports
>> > it on the latest versions of Chromium, and because it's impossible to
>> > fix without changing the API entirely.  We really need to kick this
>> > harmful plugin to the curb so that people stop making applications
>> > that drain the battery of their devices.
>> >
>> > I know that we've talked about it at length, but I don't ever remember
>> > us coming to a conclusion regarding killing the battery plugin on
>> Android.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > Joe
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>>
>>
>

--001a1141636e21c612052d8374c5--