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From: Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:32:30 -0700
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Subject: Re: Inclusion of Evothings Studio on https://cordova.apache.org/
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I don't have opposition to it being in Tools if there is consensus.
For randomization, right now it's all static and that's easy, but now
we have to introduce *JavaScript* into the mix :^O

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com> wrot=
e:
> Thanks Mikael for the information. Others on the list, with this informat=
ion, do we think that we should include this in our listing. While I do und=
erstand that we have a max limit and would not want the home page to be a p=
lace where we list a million tools, an option could be to separate tools fr=
om frameworks, and list tools as they come in. My guess is that there are n=
ot many tools. If there are, could we look at randomizing the tools and dis=
playing only enough so as to not mess up the asthetics of the page ?
>
>
>
>
> On 3/30/16, 1:51 AM, "Mikael Kindborg" <mikael.kindborg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Evothings is a tool that speeds up the development of Cordova apps, and
>>provides plugins and libraries for IoT-functionality, notably Bluetooth L=
ow
>>Energy (BLE).
>>
>>Evothings Workbench is a tool you run on your computer. Code files can be
>>edited in any editor and when a file is updated the current app is reload=
ed
>>on connected mobile devices. There are also debugging tools for evaluatin=
g
>>code and logging data from connected phones.
>>
>>Evothings Viewer is a Cordova app that connects to the Workbench. It it
>>used to run and live-reload apps. The Viewer comes preconfigured with a
>>bunch of Cordova plugins (e.g. BLE). You can also build your custom Viewe=
r
>>and add your own plugins. The Viewer and related plugins are all open
>>source.
>>
>>There is also support for connecting to the Workbench from any web browse=
r
>>or web view, that is, any Cordova app. You don't have to use the Viewer.
>>The documentation for how to do this is currently being updated. Basicall=
y
>>you just connect using this URL:
>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3a%2f%2fdeploy=
.evothings.com%2fconnect%2fCONNECT_KEY&data=3D01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsof=
t.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47=
%7c1&sdata=3DiglzYysd7Eykhicg1TrwPdzTG3oRXmkeU2iEkjUoNOM%3d
>>
>>CONNECT_KEY is an 8 character code you get in the Workbench.
>>
>>Here is the documentation page specifically related to Cordova:
>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3a%2f%2fevothi=
ngs.com%2fdoc%2fstarter-guides%2fcordova-starter-guide.html&data=3D01%7c01%=
7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f=
141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3Du02xtdYUQU41nyiVOaJAF85GHlJEYPTBUpfMp9wCn=
IA%3d
>>
>>The file structure for an Evothings app is fully compatible with Cordova.
>>You can also take any Cordova app basically, and drag it into Evothings
>>Workbench and use live reload and debugging tools.
>>
>>To deploy an app built using Evothings Studio, you just build it with
>>Cordova, using the Cordova CLI. To help people building their native apps=
,
>>we have documented how to install and use Cordova on the Evothings
>>documentation web site.
>>
>>Hope this summary helps!
>>
>>It is a good idea to clarify how Cordova is used in Evothings Studio in t=
he
>>pull request, will do this if the pull request is accepted.
>>
>>Any feedback you have on Evothings Studio is most welcome!
>>
>>Best regards, Mikael
>>
>>PS. Just to be clear, I work at Evothings and designed and implemented th=
e
>>live reload system used in Evothings Studio along with many parts of the
>>Workbench and the Viewer app.
>>
>>
>>On 30 March 2016 at 00:09, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> While the discussion on including additional tools is still happening o=
n
>>> the mailing list, I had a quick question about the Evothings Studio. I =
was
>>> looking at the website and it was not clear if the tool is based on
>>> Cordova/Phonegap.
>>> Is Evothiongs based on Cordova and are the device APIs based on Apache
>>> Cordova ?
>>>
>>> The purpose of the tooling showcase is to show off the various Cordova
>>> development tools, and it would be helpful if you could also tell us ho=
w
>>> Cordova is used. Maybe we should add that as a part of the description =
in
>>> the pull request ?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mikael Kindborg [mailto:mikael.kindborg@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:15 AM
>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>> Subject: Inclusion of Evothings Studio on https://na01.safelinks.protec=
tion.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2f&data=3D01%7c01%=
7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c88a1c4c02aa048583f3e08d358788ff5%7c72f988bf86f=
141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3DOLx8gOBhELyfi1ukS%2bjjtEBGiRS9rp1gu2pVU9f=
1dUs%3d
>>>
>>> Hi everyone on the Cordova Project,
>>>
>>> We got reject for our pull request to include Evothings Studio in the
>>> listing of Cordova Tools on
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3a%2f%2fcord=
ova.apache.org%2f&data=3D01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7cf83708e8019a4=
c60331a08d354d2e319%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3DaXHnr%2b=
w7ivaSmJyaN8yLTa9LsDZASBhw1WU8M416qz8%3d
>>>
>>> See this comment in the pull request:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/410#issuecomment-198858128
>>>
>>> Note that Evothings Studio is not a Cordova Showcase App, but a tool fo=
r
>>> developing apps for Apache Cordova.
>>>
>>> Are you also rejecting new tools? Evothings Studio is a very useful too=
l
>>> for Cordova developers, in particular for development of IoT apps. It i=
s
>>> 100% Cordova compatible, no lock-in or dependencies, an Evothings proje=
ct
>>> is fully compatible with Cordova.
>>>
>>> I think the Cordova developer community would appreciate this tool.
>>>
>>> Best regards, Mikael Kindborg
>>>
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