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From Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?
Date Fri, 18 Mar 2016 00:43:12 GMT
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Ryan J. Salva <rsalva@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Keep in mind that the answers are limited to the technologies that Stack
> Overflow chooses to offer in their list of options. They have an "other"
> option with a text box, but people's answers are largely driven by the
> checkbox options.
>
>
So, we somehow pissed off the Stack Overflow guys???



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>
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> Visual Studio Tools for Apache Cordova
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:21 PM
> To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Ryan J. Salva <rsalva@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > As I told some of my co-workers today:
> >
> > If you read the fine print, the actual statistic is “% of developers
> > who are developing with the language or tech but have not expressed
> > interest in continuing to do so.” Clearly, it’s not a good list to be
> > on, but developer behavior also doesn’t reflect their stated intent.
> > NPM Stats show the number of Cordova downloads has actually doubled
> > since the same time last year.
> >
> > Again, I don’t think this is a good list to appear on… I’m just not
> > sure what to make of it given developer behavior.
> >
>
> I'd rather be on that list instead of not be on any list.  I'd be more
> concerned with the fact that we're on the "Losers" section of the trending
> tech with a 7% decrease in the number of questions, which indicate that
> people either have no problems (not very likely) or are just giving up.  I
> haven't been answering questions on Stack for a while, mostly because
> they're using some third party framework like ionic or something else.
>
> I also find it interesting that people are hating on Cordova, and not
> PhoneGap, Ionic, Taco or the other distributions.
>
>
> >
> >
> > Ryan J. Salva  |  Principal PM Manager Visual Studio Tools for Apache
> > Cordova rsalva@microsoft.com
> > 425 706 5270 office
> > 206 612 5079 mobile
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:08 PM
> > To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Never trust people's answers when you ask them what they like! They
> > > are almost always wrong, and will tell you what they think they
> > > like, or think they will seem cooler if they liked.
> > >
> > >
> > +1
> >
> > It's interesting that CoffeeScript is on this list and that it passed
> > Cordova in most dreaded.  I also wonder what would happen if we went
> > on the WordPress mailing list and talked about how people were so
> > unhappy with WordPress.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 17, 2016, at 5:04 AM, julio cesar sanchez
> > > > <jcesarmobile@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 2016 survey is out
> > > >
> > > > Most Dreaded technologies:
> > > >
> > > > Visual Basic            79.5%
> > > > WordPress              74.3%
> > > > Matlab                     72.8%
> > > > Sharepoint              72.1%
> > > > CoffeeScript            71.0%
> > > > LAMP                      68.7%
> > > > Cordova                  66.9%
> > > > Salesforce               65.4%
> > > > Other                       61.5%
> > > > Perl                         61.3%
> > > > SQL Server & SQL 60.3%
> > > > Objective-C             60.2%
> > > >
> > > >
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fsta
> > > ck
> > > overflow.com%2fresearch%2fdeveloper-survey-2016%23technology-most-lo
> > > ve
> > > d-dreaded-and-wanted&data=01%7c01%7crsalva%40microsoft.com%7c342aabb
> > > 95
> > > ca84607ba2608d34ec16bfe%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata
> > > =x SvTHrkLQ7Z4Z7CTctZ4rjFxaznfrPKVjqCkMzcUIpk%3d
> > >
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